Podcast #41
posted by Justin at 2/21/2008 08:16:00 PM
Thursday, February 21, 2008
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Why it's called Eggtown: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Eggto
wn#Episode_Name
I totally said that Kate's kid would be Aaron as a JOKE! I had no idea they would go that way. Now that I think about it, it was pretty obvious.
So is Claire dead then?
And why doesn't Jack want to see "the baby" (That kid's like 5 by the way)? I guess it reminds him of what they did to get off the island or something.
Oy. This show gives me a headache.
I'm psyched for Desmond next week!
Maybe he finds out after he gets off the island that he is Claire's sister and that the kid is his nephew. Maybe he's feeling guilty that Claire's still on the island or even that she's dead.
I was thinking the kid was between two and three, probably closer to two.
If Claire is alive, I can't figure out how she got left behind while Aaron is now being raised as Kate's son.
Does the outside world believe this is really Kate's son, or does their story involve Claire being dead. They did say 8 survived and we know only 6 made it off.
So I def don't get a ton of things in this episode...like everyone else:
Why did Kate choose to leave Sawyer and head back to the beach when she knew that being rescued would result in her conviction?
Why is Kate taking care of Aaron like her own...it just doesn't seem to fit her for some reason...I mean, hello!, you saw her glances at Claire when the suggestion of merely touching the baby came up!
Who is Miles working for and why does he need exactly 3.2 million??? GAH!!!!
WTF is up with Locke???? He has gone SOO hardcore so quickly! The whole grenade-in-the-mouth thing shocked me considering who was doing it...not Sayid the tortuer, but Locke. Anyone share this feeling?
Why is Dan losing his memory and wtf is up with the people of the boat??? The phone convos keep getting stranger and stranger!
I can't wait to see what happens the the helicopter boys....AHHH!!!
Claire *was* going to L.A. to give up the baby. Maybe she got off the boat, said: "Whoops, don't need this anymore," tossed little Aaron off to her left, where Kate happened to be standing, and that was the end of things.
BTW, I would have enjoyed Locke's new attitude more if he hadn't turned on Kate.
I feel like the whole season finale has a different tone now that we've gotten the Aaron revolution.
Mek:
Kate must have been raising Aaron for quite some time. No baby Claire cares for would be able to do anything more than cock its head and present a puzzled look. So I'm thinking Claire dies on the island after giving birth to a second baby Charlie fathered.
Redhead:
Kate left because Locke told her to leave. But he's not a dictator.
claire isn't dead. she's still at the airport, waiting by the baggage carousel for aaron to come out...
-paul in vegas
Poor Claire, now I feel bad! Okay to allay my guilt: I actually liked it when Locke showed up, asked Claire to leave, and Claire took a moment to check with Kate to make sure everything was okay.
Stupidest episode name *ever.* However, it did draw my attention to one (serious) fact:
Locke gave the "last eggs" to Ben. So there are no more eggs. Later, he's washing blood off his hands, because he "killed a chicken." So Locke killed a chicken for an immediate chicken dinner (he was cooking all day), but in doing so, he removed the option of eggs on any subsequent days. It's very close to "killing the goose that lays the golden eggs." I think this actually highlights Locke's greatest flaws:
He doesn't think ahead, he'll act in the short term and ignore the long term.
He has faith, which is good, but he doesn't have common sense, which is bad. There's a medievel saying: Pray for cabbages, plant your crops. Locke just has faith that more eggs will present themselves.
Other character revelations for Locke:
Not a surprise, but he's caught up in what people think about him. He places himself in a position of power and then worries about what everyone thinks. He's *still* easily manipulated: Sawyer worked him, and I think that's forshadowing the next time that Ben works him.
And finally, I think his "what's the point of rules, if there is no punishment," is incredibly ominous. Sawyer was very cavalier about his "banishing" Kate, and I agree with him, Locke has no right to throw anyone out, but I'm really worried about what will happen when Locke actually catches someone flaunting his "authority." Locke has a temper (we've seen it a lot, but most recent example would be throwing Ben's dinner down), I'm worried that Locke is going to do something very dramatic, and very crazy.
Finally:
The scene where he throws down the breakfast tray is a parallel of his tantrum at the Swan Station, where he broke the dishes. I'm made even more nervous by how smug Ben looked in the station, but how worried he looks now. Ben has a good idea of Locke's trigger points, and I think even he is concerned about the loose cannon Locke is becoming.
Anything else? (I'm also posting this in the forum)
I think that the reason that the helicopter still has not shown up on the boat is that the direction you leave the island directly affects when you exit the "bubble" around the island. That is why Dan told Frank to stay on the same course that they came in on. This also leads to the idea that you could potentially manipulate time if you knew how to enter and exit the "bubble" around the island.
Did anyone else notice how the concrete wall shook after locke threw the dinner plate at it. Locke must be getting buff. jk
I still can't come up with a good reason why Dan and Charlotte were playing with the cards. I assume they were trying to test out their mental powers. I don't think this is too far off the mark since Miles can talk to the dead.
I can't wait to hear this weeks podcast.
- Brodieman
sry but am I the only one who hated this episode?
-> too much shipper-stuff (Kate-Sawyer on island; Kate-Jack off-island); too much "mother-daughter"-drama; too much Claire (;))
And what's up with the cheesy Claire-Sawyer-Kate-scene at the beginning? ugh.
I also hated the way they revealed that Kate has a son "You are not using my son." reminds me of a crappy soap opera.
Ok, so Kate adopted Aaron, didnt see that coming I admit but wasnt rly a shocker imo.
I'm usually not that critical when it comes to Lost but this was just... bad.
Oh well, nxt week's ep looks much more interesting.
Ya what was WITH that name EGGTOWN... SO WEIRD!
I hope Locke keeps things together .. I don't want to see him screw up again.I want to see him realize his potential... but think he still has alot of work to do.
Also what was with that corridor being Ben's basement? When we saw it last I was sure it was part of the Hydra. Oh wait I guess they weren't on the mini-island. Maybe Ben's house is a Dharma station.
Paul: "claire isn't dead. she's still at the airport, waiting by the baggage carousel for aaron to come out..."
that is the hilarious. reminds me of the movie "Airplane" when they have the people coming down the baggage carousel.
vicki h.
also Vincent ate the sandwich and was put in the boat house with Miles.
Miles doesn't have enough problems with the granade in his mouth his has a doggy with an upset stomach...poopy....LOL
vicki h.
http://bp2.blogger.com/_pG1kU-zfuxM/R75V9VoF8bI/AAAAAAAAAGc/MTUQfmtQrNY/s1600-h/screen-capture-45.jpg
doesn't that painting look like Clair pregnant?
vicki h.
YAy! I wasn't expecting it to be up yet but I'm so glad it is.
Hey, I came here to say "yay".
Yay! I just finished watching SNL and went to turn off the computer, but I couldn't help but check here first.
yay!
-paul in vegas
We get a Lost Lowdown AND a Mr. Podcast?!? Our cups runneth over!
Just a correction Claude and Justin (and Jen). It's not that the writers forgot about the sonic fence that surrounds New Otherton it's just that they cut it out of last weeks episode (The Economist). Heres the linkage
http://www.docarzt.com
/lost-news/lost-403-the-
economist-a-delet.php
So just because we haven't seen something for a couple of eppy's doesn't mean that the writers forgot about it. Look at the whispers for example, they were gone for most of season 3 and then they came for Man Behind the Curtain and Beginning of the End.
The fact is that if you watch Lost just when the dvds come out then you're far less likely to think the writers are forgetting about something, but since we have all this time between episodes we start worrying about things that might very well be coming in the next episode.
Like in the Economist for example, I thought it was an alright story line for Sayid to get Charlotte, but still it seemed like filler to me, I mean Sayid could just say take me on the copter and Frank would say sure and no one would blink an eye. But by this weeks episode I see that they somehow needed to get miles over there for a important story line between him and Ben.
So I feel like Lost now is painting that's half finished and we're all asking why did you paint a boat when there's no water, but maybe they'll fill in the sky first and then paint the water later just to keep things interesting.
The writers just have A LOT of balls to juggle and I have faith that they'll address everything in time.
*cough* Already posted on the forums *cough*
Is this some kind of a joke? It is generally agreed upon in the fan community that 'Flashes Before Your Eyes' was one of the best episode of Season 3. I mean if you did a poll on the forum 'FBYE' it would be in the top 5. On DarkUFO's Episode table flashes is placed firmly in the top half if the table. http://bp3.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/R7_5pm3EjEI/AAAAAAAAUO0/mMT13HnrF0E/s1600-h/episoderatings23022008.jpg I seriously hope that you were mistaking 'Flashes' with another episode otherwise it is an abomination to even mention 'Flashes...' in the same breath as 'Stranger in a strange land'
As for the grenade, Locke is neither as stupid or ballsy to place a real grenade in Miles's mouth. He is pulling off the same con that Ben pulled on Sawyer with the the 'pacemaker' episode. I bet 10 bucks that next week Locke will tell Miles that he put an empty grenade in his mouth just to scare the shit out of him.
I think the difference between Locke and Ben is that Ben generally has an idea of what he is doing. Ben conned Sawyer, because in his mind he had a purpose beyond just punishing Sawyer.
I'm quite confident that was a live grenade, if Miles' jaw would have given out and he would have been blown-apart, Locke would have said it was 'the will of the island,' and moved on.
If Sayid were in Miles' shoes he would be able to use the grenade to free himself and escape without a scratch.
Is it just me or is the Forum site suspended?
It's not just you.
suspended... ugh...
-paul in vegas
xyz, etc, you are correct, "Flashes..." is nothing compared to "Stranger..." and we only invoked the latter as a joke about the mid-season lull and my participation in podcasts. "Flashes..." wasn't all that bad and I got into an row with C&J before the podcast in which they were both sticking up for it. So, that's on me. I liked it well enough but did not feel that it advanced the story much (like Eggtown in my opinion.) I felt a bit lukewarm about season 3 in general, so if anyone is going to throw eggs(or eggtowns) they should be at my and not C or J.
Jen
Sorry guys and gals. Previously the payment was automated. Now it wants me to do it at a certain time each month manually. I just paid, so it should be back within minutes.
It's back.
Thanks for doing the podcast, Jen ~ You have a delightful laugh!
Three's Company and Two's...er, um, well, "Justin & Claude!"
Gotta say boys I love Jen as an addition to the Cast - just PLEASE work on the audio levels!!!!!! I find Jen REALLY quiet when you guys have her on...(is it just me; no one else has mentioned it???). I LOVE the cast: the longer the better, just if possible get JEN to SCREAM when she's on...er,well, you know what I mean. THANKS and keep up the side-track-laden pods!
I agree Jen was still hard to hear even after she adjusted the phone. I'm not trying to be a pain just giving you feedback.
I'd gladly turn up the volume for more Jen.
I'm blushing...but I suspect that all of those anon comments about me were posted by the same person and that that person's name might start with J and end with ustin.
Anyway, apologies for the levels. I don't know what the story is, I am really a quite loud person, but we will test before the next run.
Thanks
Uh, WTF guys? How in the hell did I not know about this apparently super duper double secret "forum site". I've been like, why don't Claude and Justin seem to post much over here, and then I see some vague mention of a forum site.
--hits head against brick wall--
Bwaahahahahaha. It's like a whole new world of Claude and Justin goodness has been opened up. Wait for me guys, I'm comin' on over!!
i agree with the change in episode name. i think you said "witness," how about "Can I Get a Witness?"
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