Sunday, July 29, 2007

Lost Lowdown Podcast #36

The Orchid orientation film, Comic-Con, and other somewhat related topics.

MP3 File


Blogger You-Know-Who said...

Cool...I was thinking you guys should do a podcast about all the comic-con news. Thanks!

7/30/2007 05:26:00 AM  
Blogger ash said...

I was hoping you would podcast about it too. Thanks guys!

7/30/2007 11:00:00 AM  
Blogger Janic said...

whoa... 3 hours about this few infos? Well, I guess we should expect nothing less ;)

7/30/2007 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

A sneak peak at the new season of 'Lost'

Ooh ooh ooh! So much 'Lost' info - but SO MUCH TIME until our favorite island drama returns in FEBRUARY! Sob ...

Anyway, here's the latest from Comic-Con, where the show's two head honchos gave some teasers about the upcoming fourth season - and a couple of answers to our burning questions.

The biggest news, of course, was that Harold Perrineau will be returning to the show as a series regular.

That was announced at an ABC press conference last week, after ABC's entertainment chief threw TV critics a bone. (The critics went gonzo when the ABC head stupidly told them that "Lost" scoop was being saved for the fan convention.)

But the producers doled out a tiny bit more about Michael's comeback Thursday. They said he won't be featured in a flashback, which, I suppose means he could be in those trippy flash-forward scenes that the show threw out in the finale.

(But I'm betting he and WAAALT!!! are back on - or never left? - the island.)

Anyway, here's a few more highlights from the Q&A session:

- The flash-forward scene with Kate and Jack being off the island isn't how the series will end. Producers say there's a "whole chapter of the story" that will take place off the island.

- Jack will find out Claire is his half-sister. Holy family drama!

- Rousseau catching Ben in that net two seasons back was an accident.

- More Libby coming up! Did she work for Dharma? The show should get to her backstory this season, as well as Rousseau's.

- That guy Hurley saw falling from a building in one of his flashbacks? Not Locke.

- Producers say the identity of the person in the coffin that Jack visits in the flash-forward finale is important. (Like, DUHHH!!)

Anyway, there were more tasty tidbits tossed around, too. Check out fan sites like the Tail Section and Lost Spoilers Web sites, or news sites E! Online and USA Today's Pop Candy blog for more!

And say it one more time with me now:

WAALLLLT!!! - Heather Salerno (posted July, 27, 2007)

7/30/2007 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger mark said...

Thanks for the new podcast!

I find it so peculiar that a message about Jacob can be found embedded in a DHARMA Initiative video. Until now there has been nothing to connect Jacob to the DHARMA Initiative.

It is even more odd, however, that the *exact* same subliminal message can be found in the video used by the Others to brainwash Karl (in the episode "Not in Portland"). At the time it was assumed that the meaning of the message was simply: Jacob is close to God. However, if we can assume now that the message originated from DHARMA, a new interpretation of the message is needed.

Perhaps (if we follow this assumption) we can explain the use of the past tense in the video. (I think we can rule out the option that Jacob is "no more", based on his appearance in the episode "The Man Behind the Curtain". Even if Jacob were dead, he still "exists" as an apparition. I dunno - would you still refer to someone in the past tense if he or she still "existed" albeit only as a ghost? Recall, Jacob was able to throw items around the cabin, push Ben up against the wall, and whisper "Help me!" to Locke...)

It is possible that "God loved Jacob" in the past BEFORE Jacob became leader of the Others, a "rebel sect" in opposition to DHARMA. This interpretation provides one possible way to connect Jacob to DHARMA.

Finally, if we assume that the use of the past implies that "God no longer loves Jacob", we need to ask why the Others might continue to use the message. If Jacob is their leader, wouldn't the Others' message read (something like...) "God STILL loves Jacob"?

(Another possibility is that the Others do believe Jacob is "dead", and that Ben is the only person who knows Jacob still "exists". But I do not think this is the case, since Jacob promised Juliet that Jacob would "personally" cure Rachel's cancer.)

(A third possibility is that the past tense is used in reference to God himself. Maybe what Ben said to Locke when he was tied up in The Swan is relevant: "God doesn't know how long we've been here, John. He can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can.")

To sum up: What significance is it that both DHARMA and the Others subscribe to the same belief regarding Jacob? Why would two opposing groups share the same ideological message?

7/30/2007 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Hey guys! Looking forward to listening to this new podcast later tonight. I think I may have got a little over excited about the e-mail I sent you. But, I think you may enjoy reading them anyway.

7/30/2007 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Krys said...

Oooh what a pleasant surprise!

7/30/2007 02:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


7/30/2007 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

this is why c&j are the best lost podcasters out there... thanks, guys.

7/30/2007 05:31:00 PM  
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7/31/2007 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

___Creepy Bunny Story___

I go to my parents home every couple of days because my dog lives with them. In the last month or so, I've noticed an upsurge in the bunny population. At first I was like 'cool.' But it became uncool very, very quickly.

Initially upon approaching a bunny, it would scamper away, and I would smile at it's shyness and go upon my merry way. But slowly the bunnies lost their shyness.

Less than a fortnight ago, I arrived at my parent's abode (parking on the lawn) and exited my car. Nearly directly in front of my car lounged a bunny, lazily munching clover (my Father sucks at lawn care). Staring at him, and he matching my gaze, I stated calmly: "Dude. I could totally eat you if this was, like, 200 years ago." Still the bunny sat, completely unfazed.

So I turned to go upon my way once more, when I noted a bunny, less than five feet behind me, blocking the way to my car door. I began to feel fear.

And I backed away, towards the door to my ancestral home, to note, yes again, another bunny. All of them insolently chewing thier clover. All of them gazing at me with their eyes-of-the-damed stare.

I'm not proud. I ran into my parents home and slammed the door.

I now carry tennis balls with me to and from the door of my parent's house and the door of my car. I wing them at the bunnies, and so far this has kept them at bay. So far. I dare not retrieve them, but send my dog after them whilst I guard over the both of us with the garden hose.


7/31/2007 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

That's scary. One of my biggest fears is an unnaturally large quantity of something. I had a similar experience, also at one of my childhood homes, but involving frogs instead of bunnies. You just didn't go out at night, they would surround you. The noises were terrifying.

7/31/2007 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

Reminds me of a tv special I saw, "When good pets go bad". I think it was on Fox or something.

I actually used to have a tiny rabbit when I was younger. I've seen some huge ones here that are almost like small dogs... Those are ones you don't want to see.

7/31/2007 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...


That was quite funny. Excellent word choices.

7/31/2007 03:03:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

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7/31/2007 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

great story mekareq

7/31/2007 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous peaches said...

Mekare Q,
Have you ever actually hit one of the bunnies with the tennis balls? If so, what type of noise did the bunny make? I don't think I have ever heard a bunny make a loud noise. Even the one that Ben shook barely made a peep.

Wasn't there some 80's comedy with Courtney Thorne Smith and Mark Harmon, that had a bunny attacking scene? Anyone know what I am talking about?

7/31/2007 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

I do not actually hit the bunnies with the tennis balls, as I fear their wrath. I just lob it so it hits the ground about six inches away from them, towards me, so that they run away.

The truly scary thing is that the other day I did that, and one of the bunnies and it did not run away.

7/31/2007 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

The trick to dealing with rabbits is to constantly keep them on their toes. The get used to things very quickly. One day, throw a tennis ball at them. The next time, make it a dart. Every 4th time you see it, roll a bowling ball towards it (pretend you're going for a strike sometimes, other times roll like you've got a 7-10 split).

Though I would venture to guess if you ran full speed toward it, arms in the arm, squawking like an eagle, it would high tail its furry tail out of there.

The 2nd #15 in the Orchid video was way to calm for what was going on. My theory: that wasn't the firs time that incident happened. See, the bunnies hold clues!

7/31/2007 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareq said...

I think the bunnies are orchestrating everything on the island. They are behind the incident, Smokey, everything. They are controlling all of the drama on the island, like the mice in "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

Once I took an aggressive step towards one of the bunnies, clapping my hands and it didn't even move. It just stood there staring at me chewing.

A friend pointed out they may be used to being fed by people, so it's lost all fear. Frankly, I'm more afraid of rabies, and it's the right time of year for it.

7/31/2007 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i found this video of the orientation film from station 7. i don't think its real though.

7/31/2007 08:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if all else fails, you could always make some hassenpfeffer.

7/31/2007 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous perry said...

Ummm that thing that falls in the background of the Orchid video is clearly just a conical flask with a stopper in it presumably pushed off the shelf by the bunny, not a light bulb.

8/01/2007 04:32:00 AM  
Anonymous perry said...

(Why it doesn't make a noise, I don't know)

8/01/2007 04:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Krys said...

Do the people on the island know that Michael killed AL and Libby?

8/01/2007 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Mekareq said...

Yes, because Hurley knew, he confronted Michael on it at the dock. So we know that Sawyer, Jack and Kate know too.

I would be very surprised if everyone else does not know as well.

8/01/2007 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger stephen said...

Only on the low lowdown do they say "well I think we're done..." at 1:36 and end at 2:58.

8/01/2007 10:55:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Very true, Stephen, very true.

Imagine the absence of Talkshoe's 3hr limit...

8/01/2007 04:13:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Justin: Two Words, 'Cane Toads'.

8/01/2007 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Julia said...

I wonder if that counts as the longest wrap up ever? When I heard the "I think we're done line" I thought wow, shortest LLD ever - but of course I was so wrong.

I have no evil bunny stories. I have no fear. Perhaps I should be afraid.

8/01/2007 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

Also I listend to TLLD pretty much a few hours every day for the past 8 weeks whilst completing my Lost jigsaw puzzles. They are very fun. The catch is there is only a snippet on the box of the completed puzzle, so it's a mystery. I resisted looking online at pictures. When you have all 4, the back combined is a glow in the dark blast door map. Very cool.

8/01/2007 10:29:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Lost jigsaw puzzles!?!? I like jigsaw puzzles! I like Lost! It's like peanut butter and chocolate. I did not know about this. I'll have to pick one up!

8/02/2007 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Holographic Universe Theory

Although I came to this conclusion using the clues on the show, I have now found that others have beat me to this theory. Oh well, maybe I am not smartest person in the world after all. Although, I haven't found anyone that has spelled out the implications I have, I'm sure they are out there. The world of Lost exists in a 'Holographic Universe'. This also justifies how the show can all be explained through theoretical science. Check out this link :

1 - Lost exists in a 'Holographic Universe'
2 - The collective consciousness of cognitive beings creates reality
3 - Alvar Hanso created the Dharma Initiative (as a sub-set of the Hanso Foundation) inside a quantum field that localized the 'Holographic Universe'.
4 - He created it to attempt to change the core values of the Valenzetti Equation
5 - This localized Universe was used as a 'Skinner Box' on the Inhabitants of the Island
6 - The creative consciousness of all the cognizant beings on the Island creates the reality on the Island
7 - Dharma was in actuality the group being experimented on
8 - The Hanso Foundation was taken over by Thomas Mittlework (as referred to in the 'Lost Experience')
9 - Mittlework sent the Hostiles to the Island to purge the Dharma Initiative, to clean the slate and start the experiment over
10 - The Hostiles were the next group to be experimented on
11 - Richard Alpert is an undercover agent of the Hanso Foundation
12 - Richard Alpert and others intervened in the Losties lives to send them to the Island
13 - Naomi's group (sent again by the Hanso Foundation) will purge the Hostiles in an attempt to start the experiment over with the Losties
14 - Backgammon/Black and White metaphors are pointing toward the idea that the Hanso Foundation wants/believes one thing and the collective consciousness wants/believes the opposite

I believe there are many other things that this theory explains.

8/03/2007 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

Sorry to get off the more on-topic Lost discussion. But i just gotta sneak another HP thing in here so spoilers abound for Deathly Hallows.








Justin, I remember both you and I were a bit confused with the whole reason why Harry survived and you mentioned it kinda on the most recent LLD. I think I have got the satisfactory answer after a little bit of thinking. I've posted it on a harry potter forum but I thought you might be interested to read it here.

I think Harry didn't die at Godrics Hollow when he was one year old (obviously) because his mother died for him and therefore created a kind of a shield between him and Voldemort, Harry says in the Kings Cross chapter "How can I be alive...If no one died for me this time" this seems to prove that Lily's protection would never again save Harry as it did that night (It happened then because she had just "died for him").
Harry is 17 and of age in Deathly Hallows and the charm Dumbledore put on Harry that required him to return to privet drive every summer and call it home (that charm keeps Lily's protection alive, without it Harry could be harmed by Voldemort) is not in effect anymore.
So if hypothetically Voldemort didn't have Harry's blood and would have AK'd Harry in Deathly Hallows then he would have been successful. Harry still has the protection but it won't save him like in Godric's Hollow since Dumbledore's charm is over. It's still running through his veins, but it doesn't protect him from Voldemort anymore.
But since Voldemort had been reborn with Harry's blood and DID have it running through his veins he couldn't kill Harry as long as he was alive because he too had the protection running through his veins like Harry, and if Harry got AK'd then Harry's protected blood running through Voldemort would act as a bond doubling the protection making it stronger therefore saving Harry. since part of Harry's protected blood was still warm in the living world it called Harry back to the living.
If any wizard or witch donated blood would this happen? No. It's not the blood that connects Harry to the living, It's the still alive Lily's protection.

What do you guys think of this theory? Are there any flaws in it? I'd love to hear some thoughts!

8/04/2007 02:38:00 AM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...




That's what I took from it as well. Voldemort was functioning as a horcrux in a way to Harry. However, because Harry's soul was whole and pure he would have been able to leave the world and "board a train" if he had chosen, he was not bound to the world, he just had a bridge he could choose take back if he wanted to.

By the way, we may have already covered this, but the little screaming thing under the seat was the part of Voldemort's soul still inhabiting his body. When he tried to kill Harry, he knocked both of them to the King's Cross place, but whereas Harry was well and without any scars, Voldemort was little more than a flayed, disturbing child.

8/04/2007 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

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8/04/2007 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

When did this become The Harry Potter Lowdown comment section? Did Monsieur Potter cast a powerful enchantment on this chalk talk?

8/04/2007 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

should i name my new dog nagini?

8/05/2007 12:07:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

Hey guys! I think there may have been other episodes in season 3 that were actually flash forwards. These are the possibilities from my perspective:

A Tale of Two Cities
Further Instructions
Every Man for Himself
Enter 77

I'd appreciate some feedback.

8/05/2007 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

I think Every Man for Himself *has* to be a flash back, after all, Clementine has to be the baby that whats-her-name told Kate about.

I need to get the Lost DVDs.

8/05/2007 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

__Creepy Bunny Update__
(Another true story)

This is off every topic, including the Harry Potter tangent that we've gone on (and I realize that I contributed to that one). However, I wanted people to be aware of the rising level of creepiness that the local bunnies are exhibiting.

Yesterday, I visited my parents house, it being a Sunday, I wanted to take my dog for a walk and perhaps have a nice chat with my mom. Things became disturbing as I glanced into the backyard at my mother's small dauschund.

He's smaller than a typical dauschund, but scrappy. My parents have an inner yard with a wire fence enclosed in the much larger yard that encircles their home. Digger, the small dog, was bravely snarling through the wire fence at a bunny which was staring right back at him from the other side, near enough to touch, had there not been a barrier in place. There sat the bunny, which likely out-weighed Digger by at least two pounds.

The bunny was completely un-impressed by the small hound's snarling bark, in fact it continued to stare back and chew with disdain at his guarding efforts.

I was about to grab the hose, when I noticed *three more bunnies* at intervals throughout the larger yard. None of them even interested in their ancient foe, the rodent-catching dauschund.

Fear struck my heart, and I almost sank to my knees at the sheer fear wrought upon me at that terrifying scene.

At that point, my twelve year old sheltie came tearing out of the house, lept up upon a planter and then sailed over the fence fiercly advancing at the evil creatures. The dawning look of comprehension upon the visages of the small rodent's faces alllowed me a glimpse into their evil psyches.

They were unafraid of Digger, because he was driven only by an instinctual desire to chase a rodent species. However, they recognized my shelties motives as being driven by her selfless desire to protect her family, and destroy enemies to thier well-being. They vaguely comprehended her willingness to sacrifice herself for her family, and they knew their dark master would be ineffectual in their unholy plans against the purity of her commitment to duty.

Before her 15-pound wrath, they fled.

But she is long in the tooth, and one day her arthritis will prevent her from performing this sacred duty.

My life is slowly morphing into an Alfred Hitchcock movie (The Bunnies). Please, my friends, pray for me.

And I know why Dr. Hollowax freaked out in the movie.

He was terrified that if the two bunnies approached each other, they would immediately create more bunnies (gender doesn't matter among the unholy), and those bunnies would make more bunnies, and so on and so on. And there would be destruction upon the island.

That is also the explanation behind Smokey, he was designed to destory feral bunnies, but was turned by them to hunt his very creators.

The one underlying "answer" to all the mysteries of Lost: The bunnies are behind everything.

8/06/2007 09:15:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

If 'Every Man for Himself' is a flash-forward, Clementine would still exist. And since the losties have only been on the island for 3 month, she still could have been a baby, or very young. We don't even know how old the picture that whats-her-name showed sawyer is. In my mind the episode could be a flashback or a flashforward. However, the idea that we have already been shown flashforwards without knowing it would be a genius move by the writers.

8/06/2007 09:56:00 AM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

I agree Nick, it would be really cool. I never thought about it until you brought it up.
Somehow I don't think "every man for himself" is a flashforward. But I can definitely see Further Instructions and A Tale of Two Cities being flashforwards. I think a lot of people were confused by the flashback in further instuctions, it just didn't really seem to fit anywhere, but I still think Locke would only leave the island if he were forced to.
ATOTC was also weird, I think jack was a bit more obsessive then any of his other flashbacks and he did kinda resemble the way he was in the finale.
Enter 77, is also strange because wouldn't Sayid know how to translate Rousseau's transmission if he spent some time in France, so maybe he actually didn't and he only went there after he got off the island. Maybe he's searching for Nadia and thinks she's there (she pops up a lot of places), i think that's something he would do if he got off the island.
But overall I doubt the would do that, even I wish they would.

8/06/2007 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Does anyone know if there is a lost website that has attempted to place all of the flashbacks in order? If not, I may take up that project.

8/06/2007 02:52:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

nevermind. lostpedia, duh.

8/06/2007 10:32:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

Nick, try these:

8/06/2007 10:34:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

Whoops, I guess you posted at the sam time I did. Still maybe the other link will help.

8/06/2007 10:36:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

I'll try 'em. Thanks!

8/07/2007 12:08:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

Damnit, found this on lostpedia:

' Locke joins a farming commune in Northern California and picks up Eddie, a hitchhiker. After six weeks, commune leaders Mike and Jan find out that Eddie is a cop there to bust them for growing marijuana. Locke promises to take care of the problem by killing Eddie, but proves unable to pull the trigger (Jan said that Eddie was recruited "fresh out of the academy", and the records they showed Locke indicated he became a police officer in 1994). ("Further Instructions") '

8/07/2007 12:14:00 AM  
Blogger stephen said...

Hey Clustin I was just listening to Mr. Podcast #2 for the millionth time and I was trying to find the post on the Ravenscraft's site about Cliff's friend who is living in sin by moving in with his girlfriend but I cannot find it.

8/07/2007 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

WAS THAT FOR REAL?!? I thought Justin and Claude made that up to be funny! Wow... Ravenscraft missed that whole "Judge not, lest ye be judged" part in the bible.

8/07/2007 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gspn does a lot of judging. those people are outrageous. at least i admit i'm judgmental.
in other gspn news, they are touting the creation museum that opened near their hometown. i even recall cliff mentioning that they got vip passes to attened a tour of the museum before it was opened to the public.

8/07/2007 03:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

try going to your parent's home in full easter bunny costume. try to infiltrate them as if they were the taliban or alqaeda.

once you approach the cave of their bin laden or mullah omar, exact revenge for all torment you have had to endure.

8/07/2007 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

I've tried listening to some gspn for a laugh. I cannot get through more than 5-10 minutes without getting violently ill.

8/07/2007 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

I used to listen to all the Lost Podcasting Network's podcasts, until I found the LLD and a couple others that I checkout when I need a Lost fix. I listened to a couple episodes of GSPN because it was one of the ones that was *always* downloading (how many episodes do they do in a week?).

I didn't love it, I found it annoying. Then I caught one where a getting-over-a-cold Cliff read aloud a very insulting letter a listener had sent in. Something about Cliff's best contributions being his coughing fits, and that his wife was an abnoxious shrew. Stephanie (his wife) had a hissy fit, and (if I remember properly) stormed out of the room. Cliff was obviously in deep trouble. He spent about 20 minutes lecturing the podcasting audience on how horrible the listeners were and that we should all be ashamed at ourselves.

Although that was the best episode up to that point I had experienced, I had a feeling they were not going to do further shows like that. That was the last episode I listened to. However, a friend emailed to let me know they were doing a live podcast with a video stream. I couldn't miss out on that. I watched them argue over housework for almost ten whole minutes, and felt a lot better about my life for almost two full days. Better than therapy.

Justin, Claude, I adore you both, and find no fault with either of you, but if someone wrote a sarcastic enough letter, would one of you toss an absolute little hissy fit? Because that might be fun. Seriously.

On the upswing, we are having a rise in the local coyote population so the bunnies are going bye-bye. Of course now we are going to have roving bands of coyotes.

8/07/2007 09:20:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Oh! I've gotta find the podcast you're talking about! Any clues as to what episode they were discussing? Hmm... I may give it another shot, I will just have to do a bit of fast forwarding to get to the juicy bits. I did hear that this Mrs. Ravenscraft did throw a lot of tantrums. That's why I tried to listen to it in the first place. I just can't stand listening through a whole episode. Lost Lowdown and Lostcasts are the only two podcasts I listen to anymore. I used to listen to Jay and Jack a bit, lord forgive me. Now, if only I could forgive myself. They seem like okay enough guys, I guess. Certainly not as bad as an evening with the Ravenscraft's. They just aren't exactly intellectual heavyweights. Jack would also tell way to many 'dad-jokes'. You know, the ones fathers tell their toddlers. Jay also had the worst song parodies since um, well actually worse than Weird Al Yankovic. And I used to like 'Weird Al'... when I was nine years old. I apologize in advance to all the song parody lovers out there.

8/07/2007 11:46:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

I gave gspn a chance but it just got worse with each episode.

What I found most annoying was Stephanie saying how she always knew "that" was going to happen and wasn't surprised at all. Of course, she never shared her predictions with the audience before it actually happened.

8/08/2007 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gspn freakout:
last 29 minutes of podcast number 50.

unless there is another one that i can't recall.

8/08/2007 05:38:00 AM  
Blogger Jeri said...

Rabbits and puzzles:
My Mom has a rabbit that my kids are just nuts about. Strangely, it is like it has an on/off switch. They will all be playing (terrorizing it most probably) and it will be fine, then suddenly: "Let me out of here!!" It freaks and just starts running! Let's just say it is not the most predictable animal on the planet. Also, it hates carrots, but loves cilantro. Go figure.

I, too, have all the Lost puzzles and I am finishing the last one. They are GREAT! They are rather challening and the content is interesting. They are each very different and well worth the money. (My kids joke that we do not have a good dinner until I finish one - my workplace of choice is the dining room table!) The do have a glow in the dark message on the back when you fit them all togeher...I'll let you know what secrets I reveal!

8/08/2007 06:22:00 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

re: gspn "living in sin"

I tried to find it again, and I failed. As I recall, it was not part of a lost podcast, it was either part of his church podcast, or a blog entry. I'm sure it's there somewhere, but I was unable to locate it. They release an insane number of podcasts. This was about a year ago, so the site looked different and had much less stuff on it.

8/08/2007 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

Thanks anon, I'll try that episode. Justin, I'll try some of those churchy podcasts, too. Thanks for the heads up! Jeri, I definitely have to pick up one of those puzzles.

8/08/2007 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

oh man gspn... i listen occasionally to be entertained, but then it became more frustrating with every episode. instead of enjoying the off topic rambling like i do with LLD and J&J i wanted to gauge my eyes out and scream JUST. GET. TO. THE. POINT. they'd spent endless minutes talking about how tired stephanie was and how podcasting was the last thing she wanted to do and then she'd hit cliff or something and cliff would scream bloody murder and claim spousal abuse. and then they'd talk about LOST for a minute prompting cliff to go into one of his theories that no one's allowed to disagree with him on because he's always on some power trip.

man. i didn't realize i was so bitter.

i listen to a lot of LOST podcasts. I enjoy J&J and Dharmalars for more lighthearted ramblings and general Lost news, plus they have episodes regularly during the hiatus which i greatly appreciate. Lostcasts is good for theory overview and of course C&J is best for hard core analysis and nitpicking. Needless to say LLD is my fave and the one I look forward to the most when the new episodes are airing.

But GSPN is where I draw the line.

8/08/2007 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

That podcast was awesome. Here it is so you don't have to find it:

Maybe I will email Cliff regarding the "living in sin" posting.

8/08/2007 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i keep that gspn episode on my on-the-go feature on my ipod. i guess it's a favorite of mine. i guess i truly am evil after all.

8/08/2007 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On an episode of GSPN My Crazy Life at the beginning of the year, Rev. Cliff announced that his New Year's Resolution was to lose 100 pounds. He didn't talk about it at all until around April when listeners started asking how much weight he lost. He had to admit he lost nothing.
So he started doing WalkCasts. He walks to work so you can listen to him talk about his weight loss as he walks to the office. It's pretty uninteresting unless you like to hear how his breath gets progressively labored during his 8 minute walk. The labored breath is reminiscent of when he had bronchitis and you could hear him wheezing through weeks of podcasts while Stephanie ranted and raved about how she "knew that was going to happen" (much like ash already pointed out).

I listen to all their podcasts. It's like a window into a part of the US that I hear about on the news but never witness myself. It's also probably some form of the trainwreck syndrome, where you can't look away.

8/08/2007 05:26:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

I only listen to GSPN when I've listened to every lost podcast under the sun and I really need a lost fix. I will definitely not listen to them during hiatus. I think they're best episode is the one for "Flashes Before Your Eyes" they had some interesting theory's in that one. But even in that episode they're bantering sometimes gets annoying.

8/08/2007 11:44:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

I finally listened to gspn #50. Why did they get so upset over that phone call? It really wasn't even that bad. I mean, the caller was way too nice considering the actual quality of their podcast. These people are overgrown infants. They need therapy, Jesus obviously isn't doing it for them.

4 stars - can't be missed by fans of the genre

8/08/2007 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

I really shouldn't be contributing to this, I feel really bad about putting anyone down... having said that: :-)

I think Cliff thought the call was funny at first, but then Stephanie got offended, so Cliff started backpeddeling (sp?) and over-compensated at the audience. I remember I was cleaning out a cabinet in my kitchen when I heard this email, and I laughed so hard, I had to get off my chair and sit on the floor. The thought that kept running through my head was: 'that guy isn't going to get any for a very long time.'

8/09/2007 07:30:00 AM  
Blogger stephen said...

I like how Cliff was wishing he had censored the call.

I would not have thought he was so big that he could lose 100 lbs...

8/09/2007 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Julia said...

I really enjoy gspn for the comedy value, but some people genuinely prefer gspn to the LLD.

These people should be hunted down and handed over to the bunnies.

8/09/2007 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

Hey Guys,

Not to steer the topic away from what we're all here for, HP and GSPN gossip, but I'd love to hear some of your favorite/good/bad LLD moments or podcasts.

As for the current topic of choice, GSPN, I haven't listened to more than 10min total. I'm not really a big podcast listener (don't hate me) in general, but what they do is really not by cup of tea.

8/09/2007 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

The Ben Linus interview in the longest podcast ever was classic! I was laughing really hard when that happened.

8/09/2007 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

With all this bunny talk, has anyone ever seen or heard of 'Night of the Lepus'? It's a horrible film from the 70s. It's about giant rabbits that invade a desert town. It stars DeForest Kelley, who blows up the bunnies with dynamite. They blowed up real good.

8/09/2007 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

Claude & Justin,
I recently started watching season 2 over again while keeping your 3 part podcast of season 2 on in the background.
Definitely the funniest moments in my relistening have been your deconsturctions of the "Official" episode breakdowns.
It amazed me (as it amazed you guys) how many blatant lies there are in those breakdowns.
I can specifically recall the one where they throw Michael and Sawyer into the hole and they supposedly recognized Ana Lucia from the airport. Yeah, like that happened.
You guys have also made some interesting predictions which actually panned out. I can't recall them off the top of my head, but as I finish this little project, I'll be sure to write them down and share.

After I'm done with season 2, I am going to start rewatching season three and listen to your podcasts, episode by episode.
Some favorites from season three include the infamous Justin Bird Voice regarding the bird that had his own problems.
The Razzle Dazzle discussion from Exposé also is a highlight.
Of course my favorite season 3 podcast would have to be the DOC Live podcast. I have never heard Justin laugh as hard as when he was reading the suggestions (probably from Rebell and me) about how to have sexual relations on the island without getting pregnant.
I think you know what I'm talking about Justin. :)
Hope you guys are having a great summer.

8/09/2007 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

Also, for all you fans of that awesome old-school (but now defunct) Lost podcast, The Transmission, Ryan and Jen have been posting thoughts since the hiatus began.

Check them out at:

8/09/2007 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

I also loved the bird voice, that cracked me up. However, my absolute favorite moment of all time, as I've stated before was

"The Others *need* to take that baby."

Also, sometimes out of nowhere I say "Razzle Dazzle," in a good impression of Justin doing his impression, and no one I know knows what the hell I'm on about.

Life is good be LLD is good.

8/09/2007 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

so now that the LOST hiatus is in full swing, what are you guys watching?

i recently moved and haven't yet decided if i want cable so i'm netflix-ing a lot of TV on DVD. almost done with watching the entire Buffy series and then i'm going to start the sopranos.

TV on DVD is how I got into LOST in the first place last summer.

But i was reading some article about how basic cable was doing exceptionally well in the scripted show genre this summer with a lot of stuff. So anything good? I trust my fellow LOST fans...

8/10/2007 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

Jane Doe,
Jericho is a pretty good show. I'm not sure if it is out on DVD yet. It's worth researching.

Also, Weeds is a pretty good series on Showtime. I think it is starting up again soon. The first 2 seasons are out on dvd.

Then there's always Entourage and Curb Your Enthusiasm, but those are comedies.

However, IMHO, the best comedy in recent memory is Arrested Development. Those are definitely out on DVD. I would put those on the top of your Netflix queue.

Supposedly a lot of FX Network dramas are getting good buzz. Check out ther website. Maybe you'll see something intriguing.

Oh wait, then there's Battlestar Galactica...
Those are my two cents.
Good luck.

8/10/2007 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger Kent said...

jane doe,

i've just started rewatching twin peaks, which is an annual tradition for me. if you want to know where serialised mystery drama shows were born, i cant recommend the show enough.

another excellent series was HBO's Carnivale, which ran for only two seasons. if there ever was a cautionary tale of art over commerce then this shows cancellation has to be it. in my opinion i rate this show higher than LOST, not in terms of breadth or depth of story as such, but rather the way the show is executed and beautifully filmed. you gotta love how HBO can sometimes steer clear of the primetime garbage LOST is sometimes subject to. Carnivale is a slow burner show, but things really pay off toward the middle and end of season two. stick with it (if you're not immediately engaged from the first episode) and i think you'll love the show as much as i do.

i second pauls opinion regarding arrested development. Hands down the best comedy since seinfeld. do yourself a favour and watch all the episodes in a marathon session as i do. the show is wonderfully witty and clever and when you watch episodes in a row the jokes seem to fit and play off each other in a way that was less effective on a tv schedule. it really is a pity that the mass american audience didn't have the smarts to appreciate or understand this show.

other highly recommended shows - for decent sci-fi the new BSG of course, or you could revisit Mulder & Scully; for a trashy show done well i'd watch Nip/Tuck; for some laughs try Wonderfalls or Dead Like Me; or if you're after a realistic crime show (yes there is one) go for The Wire.

happy tv on dvd watching! it's back to laura palmer wrapped in plastic for me.

8/10/2007 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

carnivale was indeed a terrific show. haunting and captivating.

8/10/2007 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Mr. Show with Bob and David.

... or The Jim Belushi Variety Hour with Dogs Dressed Up Like Clowns. Take your pick.

Cute little doggies!

8/10/2007 08:15:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

I started watching Jericho recently, on the mention of the show by Claude. The pilot can be downloaded on Itunes for free, but each additional episode is $1.99. I have heard that reruns are on TV though. I am up to the 3rd or 4th episode. Good show I think.

8/10/2007 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

Stephen have you seen heroes? and if you have can you tell me if Jericho is better then it? Because I like Heroes but obviously Lost is 4 times better then it, so I'm wondering where Jericho is on that scale.

8/11/2007 04:12:00 AM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

what do you think claude and justin?

8/11/2007 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

For T.V. that you don't have to think to hard about -- and thereby reserve your analytical skill for Lost -- Watch Monk on USA, followed by Psych.

Monk was really fun it's first few seasons, but I still enjoy it, and Psych (although it's a little campy) has such a dynamic relationship between the two lead characters, I believe it is worth watching.

It's T.V. that you'll watch and enjoy, but if you miss an episode, it won't bother you at all.

That's probably the only advice that I can give to you, I don't really watch T.V.

8/11/2007 08:31:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Jericho is a good show. But I should say that it goes steadily downhill around episode 5 or 6, but the last couple eps of the season are good. Also of note is even though the show is coming back next season, they only have a limited number of episodes guaranteed. So it might get canceled (again.) I for one hate watching shows that get canceled, so "caveat viewer."

Ranking, I would say:


Battlestar Galactica is VERY good. Anyone who likes scifi, even if you're a borderline fan, I say check the show out. It's not your typical scifi show.

Other shows that I really like:
the Office
30 Rock!!
Brothers and Sisters
The Dresden Files
ER (yes I still watch it after all theses years)
Ugly Betty (more interesting than you might think)
Grey's Anatomy (I'm not ashamed to say it)

That's a lot of shows. And I watch them all during regular season. But since I want to be a TV writer, I just call it research.

Twin Peaks is a classic. It's short (2 seasons) but a good ride while it lasts.

Mr. Show *is* the best sketch comedy show ever. It's of course where we got the name for "Mr. Podcast."

8/11/2007 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

I've have to give proper respect to Monty Python's Flying Circus as being a GIANT influence on Mr. Show.

8/11/2007 03:57:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

I've have?

8/11/2007 03:58:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

"I've have" never seen MP's Flying Circus, but I'm sure MP has influenced most of the comedy in the world the last 30+ years.

Nevertheless, MP didn't write "Coupon the Movie."

8/11/2007 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Never seen it? It's classic. I order you to watch it right now, buster! No writing spec scripts until you finish your homework!

8/11/2007 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

MPFC should really be seen in full episodes, but here are some links to some individual sketches:

8/11/2007 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

Had anyone ever seen "The Whitest Kids you know?" I've caught a couple of sketches on Youtube, and they're hilarious! The best one is "____ jerk." It's awesome, I laughed for three days over that particular short.

Does anyone know if it's still on the air, or what channel it's on?

8/11/2007 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...


You can't watch everything. And I'd like to be one of the few comedy writers who isn't influence by MP (directly), even if my comedy suffers because of that.

I think I'll save MP for when I'm on my deathbed, and I can laugh myself into the great beyond.

8/11/2007 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

That reminds me of Desmond with his Charles Dickens book. I guess I can understand it from that angle. I think I'll save According to Jim that way. Except I'll wait until after I'm dead.

8/11/2007 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does it surprise anyone that gspn did a series of "according to jim" podcasts?

8/11/2007 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

the only shows i watch as they are aired on TV (currently) are LOST, the office, and 30 rock. Occasionally I'll watch House, but I don't much care if I miss an episode. Oh yeah and L&O reruns since there always seems to be one airing on some channel.

Since I've never had HBO/Showtime I've just started watching the second season of Weeds with my friend. I do love that show. Another recent favorite is Dexter, the first season of which I recently finished watching. I started because of my Six Feet Under love (which might be my all time favorite TV show... or maybe it's tied for first with LOST).

But man is there a lot on TV.

8/11/2007 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we're delving into British comedies, Keeping Up Appearances is aces. The episodes are a bit formulaic, but the characters are a total riot.

8/11/2007 08:23:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

Is any one on reading this RIGHT NOW?!

8/11/2007 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

define right now

8/11/2007 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

r u ok?
r u being robbed?
home invasion?

8/11/2007 10:53:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

No need for alarm! Just bored....

8/11/2007 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


8/11/2007 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for a second i thought it was attack of the bunnies

8/11/2007 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

You-Know-Who: I've never seen Heroes and I don't want to start right now. Perhaps in the future when Lost is over and I have time... Is it as good as they say? I have seen little bits of episodes and it seems a little out there for me... melting ice with your mind?...

I'll stick to Mrs. Smoke Monster thank you very much.

8/12/2007 12:54:00 AM  
Blogger Jeri said...

Lately I have been thinking about the connections between Dharma and the Others. There are so many cross-overs that it can't be cooincidence, can it?
I think that I have heard that this is the season for Dharma info...right? Surely this is going to tie into the Others...we can't be getting all this info for nothing? I can't imagine that the connection only started with Ben - or did it?
The four toed statue is still out there...
The LLD discussions about the vents for Smokey and the brainwashing video content,i.e.DeGrut (sp?) and Jacob, are what made me begin to think about this again.

What are some of the other connections?

8/12/2007 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Julia said...

Was the four toed statue ever mentioned at all in season 3?

Maybe once the Others shenanigans has been wrapped up in season 4 Sayid will say right lets all go and investigate that 4th toe.

8/12/2007 04:06:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Hey, don't rabbits have four toes?

8/12/2007 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

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8/12/2007 02:00:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Theory on 'Further Instructions':

I was watching this episode again and can't quite get past the feeling that there was something about that flashback that we just don't understand yet. I'm sure someone has already come up with this theory somewhere, but I haven't heard it. We know that Locke was on a mission to keep the freighter group off the island. It was confirmed by the producers that Desmond did travel back in time in 'Flashing Before You Eyes'. I believe Desmond travelled back in much the same way Billy Pilgrim travelled though time in 'Slaughterhouse Five' (good read, btw). Billy Pilgrim would bounce around to different parts of his own time line. He lived his life in random order. I think this is what happened to Desmond. I think Locke also may have travelled in the same way as Desmond, either when the hatch imploded or maybe later down the road. I think the Island sent him back to 'course correct'. He was sent back to prevent the Island from being invaded. I think he probably failed, though. Locke sucks. Not sure what the hippie compound has anything to do with it or how long Locke spent in his past. It could have been years. He may have just been waiting until he had an opportunity to change the outcome of the future. Just a thought, I could be dead wrong. Maybe I just don't want to admit that Further Instructions was a shitty episode.

8/12/2007 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

Just in case you were serious...

I think that rabbits have five toes, but in a similiar anatomical style as a dog, one of thier toes is higher up, and referred to as a "dewclaw."

Dogs, cats and rabbits actually run on their toes, the "heel" of their foot is higher and only touches the ground when they lie down.

Are you implying that the four-toed statue was of a rabbit-foot? Maybe it was to bring the island good luck?

8/12/2007 04:16:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

Thanks MQ,

But I'm never serious.

8/12/2007 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareq said...

Come on Claude... you know I'm kidding!

8/12/2007 07:21:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

Of course! I was kidding too!

8/12/2007 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous perry said...

Many moments on the LLD have had me laughing hysterically but there are so many i can't think of a particular one. The Justin bird voice as mentioned already was great.

Shows I watch:
Prison Break
UFC (if that counts as a show)

Oh and One Tree Hill (though you may think i watch it for the great storyline, no. I watch it for Sophia Bush. My god she's gorgeous!)

8/12/2007 08:38:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

nick, I took Further Instructions to be filler other than the vision which was important and one line from the flashback which I think affects the larger agenda on the island. I wonder if someone can guess which one, if not, I'll post about it tomorrow. :)

As for the other shows I watch: Prison Break, Smallville, Heroes. I used to watch 24 and Survivor but didn't get into it last season. This summer I'm watching Hell's Kitchen and Kyle XY.

Speaking of TV, anyone seen the BBC show "Life on Mars"? From wikipedia:

The format of the series mixes science fiction — specifically, time travel — with police drama. The central character is DCI Sam Tyler of Greater Manchester Police, who, after being hit by a car in 2006, finds himself in the year 1973.

I just finished watching that a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed it.

8/12/2007 11:30:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

I don't watch much TV. Most shows I catch after they are over.

My favorite is Twin Peaks, despite a few bad subplots.

Six Feet Under was good, watch out for season 3, it's not as good.

Mr. Show

I like the Office (US and UK).

Dexter is good so far.

I'm almost done with Star Trek: the Next Generation. After season 2 it gets good.

I usually get hooked on American Idol, though this year was more boring than usual.

The Twilight Zone (the original version) has some great episodes.

I used to like the Simpsons, at some point they lost it for me.

Curb Your Enthusiasm, it's like Seinfeld without jokes.

In general, I hate police shows, lawyer shows and medical shows. Please don't say that CSI isn't a police show. I don't ever want to see a sitcom with a laugh track again.

I'm probably forgetting something. That list was longer than I expected.

8/13/2007 06:00:00 AM  
Anonymous perry said...


I forgot Curb Your Enthusiasm!
Prob cos of the long hiatus they're on.

Oh yeh Family Guy too.
Simpsons got old a long while ago.
Hmmm also American Chopper and Mythbusters, lol.
Old TV shows on DVD incl. Seinfeld, Friends, Dragon Ball, and Get Smart (which i mentioned on the Mr. Podcast comments). The short lived Freaks and Geeks and the famous UK John Cleese comedy, Fawlty Towers. Oh Bullshit is pretty good too. lol, that's quite a bit.

8/13/2007 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Poochie said...

Classic LLD Moment from the Tricia Tanaka is Dead podcast...

C: You know what Rose? I liked you better when you had cancer! There I said it. There I said it.

(after a moment of awkward silence)

J: ouch...


8/14/2007 07:12:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

Locke seems like such a central and important character to the show, that it's just hard for me to take that they would use him as filler. Although, that episode probably was crap. The whole polar bear taking echo thing was pretty lame, too. These 16 episode seasons should really cut the fat out of the show, I hope.

8/14/2007 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

One of the worse moments in Lost (to this point)

"I burned that bear good, didn't I?"


8/14/2007 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just got done with work for the day... and I can't help but notice that we have 121 comments. 121. wow. Seems like a good time for an edition of Lost Lowdown, or Mr. Podcast, before people start resorting to other podcasts.

Sort of like the sailor's choice they showed on the history channel, you didn't *want* to eat the cabin boy after the ship sank, but he started to look like a pork roast, and, well, there you go.

8/14/2007 10:12:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...


Here's the line I was referring to from the Further Instructions flashback that I thought was important, it's the very last line but I'll paste the conversation.

EDDIE: What are you doing?
LOCKE: Did you know it would be me?
EDDIE: What?
LOCKE: In the truck? Did you know it would be me driving? Did they choose me?
EDDIE: They? John, I have no idea what you're talking about.
[Eddie starts to raise his rifle.]
LOCKE: I didn't load that one. So how about you just answer the question, Eddie?
EDDIE: Yeah, they chose you, John.
EDDIE: Because you hadn't been here long, didn't have a criminal record, and psyche profiles said you would be amenable for coercion.

And that brings the episode full circle, it's why Locke is always the one being given "further instructions", like in this episode, like in deus ex machina. I don't think it has anything to do with him being special but because he is easy to coerce. Thoughts?

8/14/2007 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

further instructions is painful to watch

8/14/2007 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Julia said...

What about the Dharmalars idea that Further Insturctions is a flash forward? It would make the episode way more interesting. Maybe Locke is trying to recreate the "family" he had on the island. Could be just wishful thinking. I've not watched the ep since it aired so who knows?

8/15/2007 05:02:00 AM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

well, if Locke is off the island in Further Instructions, wouldn't he have lost his ability to walk? Isn't that why he doesn't want to leave the island, because he won't have access to it's healing powers?

I guess it's possible for him to harness the powers off-island, or to no longer need the power anymore, but then when would he get the time to learn how to transfer the power off-island and/or why does he lose the use of his legs occassionally on island if he's been completely healed?

that's why i'm not so sure about the Further Instructions being a FF.

8/15/2007 05:22:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Alright, so as to this Further Instructions has flash forwards business:

1. Locke in the commune is "old" Locke, naive is wildy unaware of what's going on around him. If the commune stuff was post-island, Locke would act very differently.

2. If the commune scenes are post-island, it doesn't make sense in terms of the sweat lodge. Do we really want to believe that Locke just came up with the idea of the sweat lodge on his own (when he lost his voice on the island) and then in the "future" saw the sweat lodge at the commune...and was like "Hey, they had the same idea."

No, it makes more sense that the commune scenes are flash backs, and that he got the idea for the sweat lodge after seeing it at the commune.

Also, I'd bet that Damon/Carlton would have dropped a hint at some point that there were flash forwards before the finale, if that were true.

People want things to be more interesting than they are. Further Instructions is as boring as its presented. Unfortunately.

8/15/2007 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Some of you out there have a tangential interest in my writing, so I thought I'd mention that an original script I wrote won recently won first place in a screenwriting competition, while an episode of "The Office" that I wrote got to the semi-finals.

This of course is just the first step in my plan to become a writer on Lost. If I'm really lucky, maybe I can get on by the last season.

8/15/2007 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

Wow Claude. Congratulations!

8/15/2007 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger ash said...

Claude, congrats!

I agree with you 100%, making the Further Instructions flashback a flash forward is just grasping at straws. Doesn't he have hair in the episode as well? Unfortunately, it's just what it was.. a not so interesting episode.

8/15/2007 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

hey claude,
is there any place we could read those award-winning scripts of yours? are they posted online anywhere? i'm definitely interested in checking them out.

8/15/2007 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger radnac said...


8/16/2007 09:58:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Yeah, my site is ridiculously not finished. There are a few things on there to read. I'll update it soon and let you guys know...

8/16/2007 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow. claude's star meter on imdb went up 42 percent this week.

8/16/2007 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...


I saw that too. I don't have an IMDB Pro acct so I can't check as to why.

8/16/2007 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

hmmm. there is no active link for your original tv show script and i can't find "the office" one anywhere. am i missing something, perchance?

8/16/2007 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

oh you already addressed the un-finished-ness of your site. i somehow missed that. nevermind my last post.

8/16/2007 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

Claude, apparently there's a free 14-day trial for the pro account incase you want to see why it went up.

8/16/2007 01:44:00 PM  
Anonymous perry said...

Yeh there is a 14 day trial, but u gotta put in ur credit card details.

8/16/2007 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

I agree that Further Instructions was just a lame episode. For some reason I just had some sense that something else must be going on, since there didn't seem to be anything relevant on the surface. I'm used to that with Sun and Jin, but no Locke. However, I still don't think there is much evidence that Locke will ever not be naive in some sense.

I still think that there are things that happened in old episodes that we don't quite understand yet. Maybe Further Instructions just isn't an example of that.

8/16/2007 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...


Are you guys planning any Mr. Podcasts in the near future? I need my excel spreadsheet fuel! I know you guys are busy.

8/17/2007 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger stephen said...

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8/18/2007 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger stephen said...

I need my daily commute* fuel! I'm resorting to downloading vintage LLD so I don't break down.

*Unemployed standing-around-the house fuel.

8/18/2007 02:25:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

To be honest, for me LLD is working part-time, trying to get more hours, sitting on the couch playing video games and trying to mend the torn fabric of my life fuel.

8/19/2007 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

Normally, it's my "feeding a 100 hour work week" fuel. Today, specifically, it's my "Oh God, please heal me of food poisoning, and please smite the evil bastard who gave me the hot dog at the stadium last night, I swear I will wring his neck with sausage casings if I ever find him, and if I don't stop barfing by tomorrow my clients are going to be very unhappy with their massages, and my boss will be very unhappy with my reception work, and I will hunt down the poison-vending son of a sailors ragged goat if I have to hunt him through the greater Seattle and Kirkland area...uh fuel."

Not to go off topic, but my sickness-adled mind is unable to grasp the complexities of LOST right now-- I love being independant, living alone, my freedom, but right now I want my mommy to bring me flat seven up and soda crackers. :-( And she lives too far away.

8/19/2007 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

stephen said...

"You-Know-Who: I've never seen Heroes and I don't want to start right now. Perhaps in the future when Lost is over and I have time... Is it as good as they say? I have seen little bits of episodes and it seems a little out there for me... melting ice with your mind?...

I'll stick to Mrs. Smoke Monster thank you very much."

I don't think you're missing anything. I watched all of season 1 but I only really did it because I wanted to be able to talk about it round the water cooler. Maybe since Lost is so good it's spoiled me for any other tv show but I just don't think heroes is "great".
The actors are not that good (some of them are awful). I think the only good actor there is the guy who plays HRG, and maybe the guy who plays Nathan.
The writing is alright in terms of plot and ideas, but in terms of dialouge and character it's fairly bad.
And of course the music is really bad, it's some kind of cheap sounding synthizizer-based "sc-fi" music.
It's a fun 45 min ofentertainment, but nothing to really think about.

8/20/2007 08:09:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

Yeah, I enjoyed Heroes but I was really disappointed with the finale. I expected better. I'm still going to watch but it doesn't compare to Lost.. what does?

8/20/2007 09:41:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

I've only watched a few episodes of Heroes. I agree completely with you-know-who, the show is real cheeseball. It reminds me of something they would show on mystery science theatre. It's just awful. The only entertainment I could get out of it was how laughable it was. If other people like it, that's cool. I just can't take seriously the over-the-top comic book style of the show.

8/21/2007 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

Regarding Lost Lowdown Podcast #19:

I think Juliette did not change back to her maiden name because it is very inconvenient to change your name if you are a doctor. You have to change all your credentials, update your licenses, notify your school, etc. etc. I don't know if I've ever met a doctor who took their husbands name after they *became* a doctor, unless they hyphenated it.

Also, if she has a reputation it would be associated with her married name, and she might lose whatever value her name would carry on scientific publications if she changed back, people would skip over the articles without paying attention to the fact it was the same Juliette as she was when she was Juliette Burke.

Of course, she could just have a very stupid last name. I'm thinking Sheizmeister or something.

8/23/2007 07:27:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...


You bring up a good, valid point. But it would surprise me that the writers would have that in mind, while missing the mark on something a big bigger like Australia's health care system.

8/23/2007 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Juliet never took her husband's name. She already had it. The next big Lost character revelation is that Juliet and her ex-husband were actually cousins and got married in Canada.

(btw, spoiler alert!)

8/23/2007 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...


8/24/2007 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

And it turns out that Juliette's sister is actually her brother who was recovering from a sex change operation (her hair was growing out to a feminine style, hence the head scarf). The reason they were so excited about the sister's pregnancy, and the reason it related so nicely to the field mouse stuff, is because Juliette, in essence, got a male human pregnant. And the human carried to term, so she actually fixed whatever went wrong with the mouse.

Her husband was excited about the experiment, because he's always wanted to be a mommy, and that's why he had so much hostility towards his own mother (because your insufferable and mean. Bye mom).

The entire cast is rescued by Jerry Springer and made to be on his show. Ben Linus found out about Springer's evil plot, and was actually trying to protect Alex from the insidious plotting by isolating the entire island. Walt's ghost-thingy appeared to Locke in a scene we didn't see, and said something like: Crazy mom, kidney stealing dad, dude, stop them! Walt of course being driven by his own soap-opera life.

Boone and Shannon, be glad you're dead.

I think I cracked the mystery of Lost.

8/24/2007 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mekareq, your next to last comment (regarding juliet's last name) was somewhat intelligent, so i decided to read your last comment (regarding juliet's "sister") with the same amount of seriousness. i sure was wrong to do that.

8/24/2007 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

Anonymous... I am so terribly sorry. Henceforth, I shall announce my intentions, honerable or not, at the beginning of every post. After this one, of course. And probably the next. And maybe the following as well. Actually, I hope you didn't read this one as a serious post. Sorry.

8/25/2007 08:06:00 AM  
Blogger Jeri said...

Anyone out there??????????

Has there been any news about the episodes for mobile phones? Are they"Mobilsodes?"

8/30/2007 07:22:00 AM  
Blogger stephen said...

Hey C & L*, did you get my email? Also I have been listening to older LLDs, and what happened to Jennifer? I would not mind having her back sometime.

9/01/2007 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

I was just listening to the LLD for "The Man From Tallahassee." I don't think I mentioned this before, but have we ever seen someone slap Locke? Do you think it is too late?

9/01/2007 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

Serious post:

I was listening to "The Man from Tallahassee" (still) and was at the point that Justin and Claude were discussing the label "Pharisee." I don't want to turn this into a religion post, but just wanted to point out an interesting connection.

The Pharissees were the religious leaders of the Jewish world. They also had some authority in the punishment of thier people. Outside of not being allowed to issue a death penalty, they were pretty much allowed to handle thier own people the way they chose. They were trying to trap Jesus into breaking a law, so that they could condemn him, and thereby force him to lose his credibility, that was sapping the power of the religious leaders.

***you can skip this part, example of the pharisees Catch 22's***

One way they tried to depose him(probably the most famous) is the prostitute thing. The pharissees dragged a prostitue before him, and basically put him in a position where he could say the woman hadn't done anything wrong, going against the Torah and basically condeming himself as a hypocrite, or he could condem her, which would lead the crowd to stoning her to death, which was outside the authority of any the Jews and which would have earned him his very own death sentance from the Romans. Catch 22. He was very smart in the fact that he didn't condemn her at all, he told those gathered that if *they* were without sin they could stone her. Obviously no one did. Once they all left, he asked her to go her own way and sin no more.


The thing that the pharisees really got pissed about was healing on the Sabbath. People came to him, and he wouldn't turn them away just because of the day of the week. This was considered *work* by the Pharisees, and therefore against the commandment to keep the Sabbath holy.

However, when Jesus pointed out that any one of the Pharisees would untie their mule, take it to the well and help it to drink, none of them argued. They would allow themselves to work to give relief to their livestock on the Sabbath, but would try to have Jesus sentanced to death for healing people.

Like I said, I didn't want to turn this into a religious thing, but thought that the healing island connection Locke and Ben have, and the fact that the Pharisees argued with someone healing on the wrong day and preferring that they should suffer rather than go against some rules. They would rather appear righteous, then behave righteously.

I assume someone has already covered this, but wanted to point it out again.

9/02/2007 09:32:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

I picked up the official lost magazine (10$!) and it has a picture of Claire that makes here look as retarded as she is:

9/04/2007 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous jane doe said...

hey so will you guys be doing any more mr. podcast's soon?

9/04/2007 06:02:00 PM  
Blogger Jeri said...

Maybe Clustin has had a falling out and they are not on speaking terms?? Not even podcasting can bring them together!

Maybe Clustin is enjoying the last bit of summer...

maybe Clustin is podcasting right now and we don't even know it????

I am drunk with the possibilties!

9/04/2007 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous paul in nyc said...

i'm just drunk

9/04/2007 08:09:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

I think Clustin are using the riches they made podcasting to vacation in Hawaii.

9/04/2007 08:28:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

ustin here,

Everything is ok. I'm back in school now, so I've been really busy. Hopefully, we can get something out there sometime in the semi-near future.

9/04/2007 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous ex-gspner said...

you are all missing the true joy of gspn, the endless asking for money and downloads from the people who listen. That is the insane part. They talk constantly about how they love to podcast but they should be paid for their time. Only podcast I ever heard who does that.
-ex gspner

9/08/2007 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

Personally, I don't mind a request for money. But I hate it when it is constant to the point of annoying. Ask once at the beginning, and, if you must, at the very end. More than that is tasteless and tacky.

9/08/2007 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...


I'm re-listening to the infamous GSPN#050.. lol at drunk-girl.

9/08/2007 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i miss lld and mr podcast

9/08/2007 07:48:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

I'm listening to the "Further Instructions" GSPN (to hear the fake Damon/Carlton interview)and I love how much their intro differs than TTLD. Drunk-girl starts out saying that the first 15 minutes was the best episode of all Lost ever. In case you don't remember (I've listened to TTLD "Further Instructions" many times), Claude and Justin said the "Instructions" should have been "don't air this episode".

9/08/2007 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gspn is so season 2

9/09/2007 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I miss you guys!

9/11/2007 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


9/13/2007 02:40:00 PM  
Blogger avwalker said...

if anyone's interested jorge garcia started a blog:

9/13/2007 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

47 days...

9/14/2007 07:57:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

The Lost Lowdown: The other 48 days.

9/15/2007 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let the guys have a life.

9/16/2007 01:35:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

Hey guys,

Just FYI, we are planning to do another podcast in two weeks. I know that doesn't sound great, but busyness abounds. Maybe we can squeeze a Mr. Podcast in there somewhere to hold you guys over.

Many thanks to the people whose posts are keeping this place alive. You shall be duly mentioned in a roll call type segment of a future podcast. That's just how we do!

9/16/2007 03:22:00 PM  
Blogger avwalker said...

Yay! However many weeks away, it's still something to look forward to.

9/16/2007 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous vicki h. said...

Terry O'Quinn won best supporting actor in a drama series for Lost. Yea!!!!!

9/16/2007 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous mekareQ said...

Okay, we've got two weeks... How about everyone mention something from LOST that would make it onto Jerry Springer?

I know there are some easy ones, but I am going to start with a hard one... The weird Oedipus thing Hurley and his Mom have going on.

9/16/2007 08:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate all the "podcast??" comments and the day counting. Leave the guys alone. It's not like they have a hell of a lot to talk about anyway.

9/17/2007 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Krys said...

So Terry O won the Emmy last night.

Do you guys think Michel Emerson should have won it (or someone else)?

Elizabeth Mitchell should have been nominated. She's one of the best actors on the show IMO.

9/17/2007 06:38:00 AM  
Blogger avwalker said...

After TOQ's win I didn't care what other nonsense went down at the Emmy's for I was satisfied. And ME was so adorable, beaming proud like that when Terry won.

I'd have to say the Boone/Shannon sex-isode would definitely make it on to Jerry Springer. Sure, they weren't blood related, but still.

Maybe the Christian Shephard being Claire AND Jack's dad is a very special paternity testing episode. (Too bad there's no Claire/Jack romantic story line because that would definitely be there if it were on Springer).

9/17/2007 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

didi spy claude on the red carpet on sunday night?

9/17/2007 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Claude said...


Anon, that was priceless.

The only carpet I was on yesterday was beige and in my room.

9/17/2007 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

I was so excited when TOQ won, Emerson would have been fine with me but it's a long time coming for Locke. :)

9/18/2007 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really wanted Emerson to win... TOQ is great, but I really wanted to hear Emerson's speech if he won... oh and nice pink shirt and sparkle tie Locke...

9/19/2007 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the Jerry Springer part... there should be a big reveal for who the gay character is, since it wasn't very obvious in the episode... (which episode were they supposed to reveal it in? Was it Nikki and Paulo's?) And there would be a big fight on stage once it's revealed.

9/19/2007 11:37:00 AM  
Blogger stephen said...

paulo: i'm gay
nikki: i'm surprised. you slept with me.
paulo: i did that for me! for the diamonds.
nikki: i thought you didn't care about the diamonds...

9/20/2007 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

Claude I saw this and thought of you:

9/20/2007 04:31:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

stephen, lol. I remember the Nielsen conspiracy!

9/20/2007 09:34:00 PM  
Blogger avwalker said...

d&c have released a new official LOST podcast. haven't listened to it yet, so who knows if it's worthwhile. but it's something... (is the hiatus even half over yet?)

9/21/2007 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

Here is the official LOST podcast

9/23/2007 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

Just a marker

Today is September 23, 2007

9/23/2007 03:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

As usual the damn blog cut off the podcast link

it is here (cut and paste)

9/23/2007 03:27:00 AM  
Blogger ash said...

They don't talk about much we didn't already know but a fun listen nonetheless.

Sounds like they may have a chance to get Alpert back for a couple of episodes. How do you guys think Cane will do?

9/23/2007 03:07:00 PM  
Blogger You-Know-Who said...

Hopefully bad. Bring Alpert back!

9/23/2007 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

They addressed what I consider to be the big issue for LOST as it moves forward: whether or not the flashforwards are "fixed" or if there's some kind of multiple universe, possible world, kind of thing going on.

First, they said that they weren't fans of the "multiple universe" thing, they want things to count. I applauded. Then, Damon had to step in and say that "flashes before your eyes" contains their thoughts on changing the future. As you'll remember, we could not figure out what the point of FBYE was. There were conflicting messages. But, in the end, Desmond did alter the future, in what I consider to be significant ways.

So, as far as I can tell, the flashforward might happen, or not. Yay!

9/23/2007 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

I just read a theory on Jay and Jack's Forum (acknowledge that it originated on the Transmission)

It drew an interesting parallel that Desmond was sprawled out and confused in his time trip similar to Jack in the pilot. Perhaps what we are watching is Jack's redo. Thus the flash forward we saw at the end of season 3 is a prelude to Jack turning his hatch key and returning to the island.

Of course we can pick it apart and say if he is his redo why does he make so many mistakes.


First episode of season 4 is Sawyer centric.

9/23/2007 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bumpo to get the 200th post


9/24/2007 06:38:00 AM  

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