Monday, February 26, 2007

Podcast #21

Episode 3.9: "Stranger in a Strange Land"




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19 Comments:

Blogger Malcolm said...

i thought of you guys as soon as juliet said "it's complicated."

3:37 PM  
Blogger Malcolm said...

ooooh! you guys burned jay and jack soooo good! as much as i like them, i have to agree with you. listener feedback is annoying. i like the way the dharmalars do it, though. they put it at the end, so if i don't like it, i won't miss anything.

3:41 PM  
Blogger phat_cartman said...

Nice slam to start the show! No podcast has ever irritated me off more than theirs.

My response to the “glass house” argument is, “yes, I am your *prisoner* in a glass house”. LOL I think they’re trying to tell the audience to consider perspective when judging characters; which is pretty stupid… intentions are meaningless, only actions have meaning. They are clearly a violent and hypocritical group. I suspect the writers want us to think the Others have acted based on some ultimate plan for the good of mankind, and they're trying to re-paint our image of them. I'm just not buying it.

Good point on the kidnappings. They’re not there to give anybody a better life. If they were, then they would have just popped by for tea after the crash, and offered help. And think on this... all those people were injured after the crash... and there was Ethan, a *surgeon*, not lifing a finger to help the injured crash victims.

Did you really say they would have ordered Brady Bunch DVDs :) Would they order it from DharmaFlix, LostNet, LostFlix :P I suspect any media they have, somebody brought with them or Dharma put there for the experiments.

The faux constellation with pseudo-Latin names was definitely weird. They’re clearly hinting at a parallel world, or even just a parallel culture. Could be they’re in a different time, which ties in to the media being there, but no radio waves.

I think you're reading too much into the tattoos. Matthew got them before the show, and the writers decided to work them in. Any alternate translation should be avoided. The statement "that's what they say, not what they mean" is just saying they have a powerful contextual meaning that the Sheriff isn't privy to, no matter how good her Mandarin is ;-)

Well, that's enough outta me! Awesome podcast! Thank you thank you thank you!

5:13 PM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

I think your discomfort with people who live in glasses houses is that it appeals to the ad hominem fallacy. That is the charge is attacking the arguer and not the argument. When I first watched it, I completely missed the proverb and I thought Tom was doing an analogy of the three little pigs. :).

Knowing how the writers like to throw things in, when Tom said, I am going to give you some stones, is that not another expression to have balls (nerve) to say what is really on your mind.

Hey can you do a parody of the GPN Ravenscraft Lost pod next week. All you need to do is cough, bicker, constantly move the microphone, talk down to your audience as though they are six years old, hype anything you are going to say, apologize for having a religious believe, talk over each other, hit each other, overly discuss the technology, beg for money, admonish negativity, and most importantly go off subject. As you can tell I am a huge fan of Cliff and Stephane.

3:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Cartman,

Justin and I were just wondering where you were since you haven't posted in a while...and here you are! Good to hear from you.

Bruce,

Have you turned a failsafe key recently? You seem to know the future...

3:15 AM  
Anonymous 420brownie said...

Bwwwaaahaaa. Just started listening, but the Jay and Jack bit was priceless. Especially love the part when you introduce listener feedback. Wooooo-hoooooooo!!

8:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

some notes while i listen (at work =D)

- the constellations - i think you are nitpicking here. if you were going to invent a new constellation with your girlfriend and give it a cutesy name, why not play on the existing nomenclature? I don't think the writers were implying that Carl & Alex didn't know what the constellations were called. It was all a part of their saccharine romance.

- The fact that Ben calls Alex by the name that Rousseau gave her implies that the others were familiar with her at some level. However, I want to be clear that I'm opposed to the idea of a romance between Ben and Danielle.

- I think Attura accurately transcribed Jack's tattoos. "He walks among us but is not one of us" does describe a leader, one of us but more. It also accurately describes the loneliness. Juliette's brand is it's opposite. It says the same thing "she walks among us but is not one of us" but suggests that she is less than an other.

keep up the good work of podcasting each episode. aces.

DJ Mr. Monkey MD

12:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh my

http://www.cafepress.com/gspn.72961151

we can only hope the 'cranky franchise' makes fridge magnets available as well

12:51 PM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

I prefer to call Danielle Rousseau by her married name Danielle Linus.

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A problem with the constellations, the Ursa (Bear) [Major/Minor] are in the northern hempisphere. What stars in the Southern sky form a bear (Ursa Theodorous)?

1:00 PM  
Anonymous Alice said...

Hi,
This is your first podcast I've listened to, and you made me crack up quite a few times. i love the voices you do, especially when talking about Jack and the sandwich.
I'll be listening from now on!

4:16 AM  
Anonymous Luber said...

hello, lesbians!

just kidding. aha.

nice jay and jack bashing.. they are two big posh sods with plums in their mouths..
and the plums have mutated.. and they got beaks! Smell my cheese, you mother!

ahaha, this was a great podcast. enjoy the show tonight!

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Mike said...

Lets um talk um about umm stranger um in um a strange um land. I thougt um the um episode was um pretty boring actually um what um did you um think? Um huh um ...

3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'll be impressed if you can get more than 20 minutes out of this week's episode. it was a good, fun episode, but pretty light on island mystery or developments.

maybe next week will provide enough fuel for you to break the Lost Lowdown record.

DJ Mr. Monkey MD

8:17 PM  
Blogger Claude said...

Oh, Mike.

8:55 PM  
Anonymous 420brownie said...

Really, really enjoyed last night's episode. When Kate set out to "find help", the first thing that came to mind was Russaeu (horrible spelling), but then I thought, no way will they do that. YESSSS!!! The Rousseau/Alex storyline is finally coming full circle, hopefully.

Favorite Sawyer line from the episode (of many), "looks like those Dharma freaks were building some sort of dirt road......(brushes map aside as if it's toilet paper) woohoo, beer!!!"

Thought Hurley's backstory was going to be lame, and although I don't think we learned anything terribly new, it was fun to go back and see how his life went after winning the lottery. Actually seeing the meteor hit Mr. Clucks was awesome.

Great episode, can't wait for next week, though I'm seriously going to stop watching any of the previews- the promo guys are starting to give away WAY too much. For instance, Hurley finding the van was completely anti-climatic because they showed it to us in the damn promo.

7:21 AM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

It was not a Jay and Jack bashing it was a parody tribute.


I eagerly await the Ravenscraft bashing though! There is very little more entertaining than Cliff saying Apollo Bar and Nike for Paolo and Nikki, for the 400th time. Followed by Stephane admonishing Cliff, then Cliff doing it again, followed by Stephane refusing to talk followed by Cliff apologizing. Followed by Stephane getting a headache and wanting to walk off. I never get tired of that (sarcasm off).

Second best comeback ever -
Hurley - uh red uh neck uh man!

=== hey my word verification to post contains a dirty word! Cool!

4:42 PM  
Blogger Malcolm said...

you guys are like a long car ride in a dharma van with good friends.

6:25 PM  
Blogger Curt Yanko said...

you guys are trouble! when are we going to collaborate on something?

I, like Claude, don't have trouble mapping 'He walks amongst us..." onto 'You're a leader, a great man..."

In the end though, I see it as a pretty weak plot point. How does this 'definition' change anything for the character? to me it's just exposition for us describing Jack's archetype.

5:50 AM  
Anonymous Julia said...

Great podcast guys. It's a good thing I can listen at work, you guys get the gold medal for longest podcast every week.

Pleeease tell me you liked Hurley's episode. Lost has got the fun back!

8:38 AM  

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