Your Thoughts on: "I Do"
Well, the fall finale has aired. What did you guys think?
posted by Claude at 11/08/2006 11:26:00 PM
Wednesday, November 08, 2006
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My thoughts on "I Do" :
Don't.
This episode is more worthy of "The Lost Letdown". On the bright side, the break will give you guys a chance to catch your breath.
I'm looking forward to your season 2 retro during the break.
If they really killed Karl, I think this raises significant questions about their moral code, especially given the emphasis est. by Goodwin and Ben (back when he was Henry) on good vs. bad people.
Jen,
Pickett's woeful inability to realize that Sawyer isn't responsible for Colleen's death, coupled with the fact that none of the other Others seem to care that Pickett wants to and was about to kill Sawyer, AND their harsh treatment of, well, everyone that's not them garners them a "bad people" note in my book.
It's one thing to consider yourself "good" if you have this grand plan and ideology, but these guys are just psychopaths.
This episode sucked, as you'll hear me say very soon...
Curt, you crack me up. I totally agree with you.
If Justin and I get 2 hours out of this ep I will be surprised. The worst part is that I already prepared my intravenous feeding tube so I wouldn't have to pause during what I hoped would be a 12hr podcast. Oh well...
I think you might be right about Locke finding the island north. Yuck.
The best part of the ep was the line about Jacob. Which, in a way, sucks. Because that one word raised more questions than anything else in the ep.
Joe,
I agree, the funeral seemed strange. I can't believe Paulo and Nikki, and Desmond too, waited for an hour for Locke and Sayid to come back. With nothing to do but stand there and stare at Eko's grave. Not quite believable.
Bob M,
"The Lost Letdown"
You made my day with that one...
And may I ask what was up with Asskicking Alex? That was out of nowhere.
Claude, you made me spit my Dr. Pepper through my nose this morning when I read your opening post- "Don't"...exactly.
I don't know, there were parts I really enjoyed, the last 10-15 minutes kept me on the edge of my seat. But Kate's blahhh predictable backstory and the "drama" leading up to the last 10 minutes were BORING. I do think that our expectations were probably too high for what is really nothing more than episode 6 of 22. But D and L and ABC set themselves up for this...wish they had delivered.
Yeah, OK, Jacob, I didn't even catch the line or knew of Jacob until I saw joe's post first thing this morning. It implies someone else was "managing" the list. I hope this is leading to something bigger than Jack operating on Ben, but I can't believe they buried the "revelation" in such a small line.
I've really, really enjoyed the first 6 episodes. I think 1, 4 and 5 were the best and now that we've seen 3 and 6, 2 is looking pretty good! But I'm disappointed that we've learned relatively little about the others. We've basically co-inhabited their camp for 6 episodes now, and still don't know a whole lot more about them than at the end of season 2.
I had high hopes for Locke's side-story this week, what total crap that was. I figured we were going to see he and Sayid stumble on some new piece of mythology, but no, they were just taking a cruise to pick up the jesus stick. And the big reveal being something that we've already seen????? My mouth dropped on that one.
Claude and Justin, I'd really like to get your thoughts on where you think the show is heading. I'm getting the feeling that this latest "others" arc is nothing more than an extended "fire and water" episode. Have an encounter with the others, learn little of nothing, then escape. So, assuming Jack, Kate and Sawyer escape, where's the story headed? I guess a lot depends on whether Ben survives or is killed, hell nevermind, it depends on a lot, but I'd still like to get your thoughts.
OK, this got really long, I'm sure I'll have more stuff later. Just finished your last podcast, and yeah, I can't imagine you'll have more than a couple of hours of material with this last episode, and that's stretching it. Later.
this ep was supposed to change everything!? damn promo-dingbats! the cliffhanger was not fantastic. where will they escape? we all know that they won't kill off Sawyer.. no real suprise here..
I had hoped that the 6 episodes would build up to something huge. ep 4 and 5 was great, but they let us down on this one.
13 weeks! I'm sure they will start off very slow again. grieve ye not biatch.
this ep was supposed to change everything!? damn promo-dingbats! the cliffhanger was not fantastic. where will they escape? we all know that they won't kill off Sawyer.. no real suprise here..
I had hoped that the 6 episodes would build up to something huge. ep 4 and 5 was great, but they let us down on this one.
13 weeks! I'm sure they will start off very slow again. grieve ye not biatch.
i usually get excited about mythology stuff, but i really enjoyed this first pod (discounting most of the Locke/polar bear episode and the way they handled the Eko stuff). i really enjoyed all of the others' camp stuff. It felt like it could go any direction throughout all 6 episodes, like Jack, Kate or Sawyer weren't beyond getting killed off at any moment. they kept the drama running high.
i understand if it's hard to squeeze much of a podcast out of the episode though. It was light on info/reveals.
DJ Mr. Monkey MD
>>Pickett's woeful inability to realize that Sawyer isn't responsible for Colleen's death, coupled with the fact that none of the other Others seem to care that Pickett wants to and was about to kill Sawyer, AND their harsh treatment of, well, everyone that's not them garners them a "bad people" note in my book.<<
Thank you. I wish more people would call a spade a spade.
I didn't like this episode as much as I liked the last one and all the Sawyer and Kate sex was quite unnecessary and over done. I love Jack. Dude's got balls of solid rock. I just think his plan is going to fail.
What interests me though is what might have transpired between Jack and Ben in conversation the night before the surgery. I wonder if he suspects Juliette's plan? Something about his demeanor and expression right before he went under told me that he might know. Jack said that Ben had to get him the hell off of the island. Is Jack's plan something that both he and Ben hatched out the night before. Sounds weird but that thought did occur to me.
What? This was great!! I loved it! Yes, Nathan Fillion had a lame part and Kate's flashback was largely static. But Jack's unexpected bid for control was super and Juliette had ample opportunity to quarter-pucker her lips, what more could ja want?
I wonder what Jack's reaction will be when Kate tells him that he they're gonna need a way back across to the island? Maybe they'll commandeer the Galaga- that would be cool.
I've been thinking more about Alex's interaction. Although I don't particularly like the way they presented it, I think there's something big going on with her. Ben asking about her- there's something to that. I almost wonder if she is in on the whole thing, maybe her "ambush" or rescue attempt of Kate and Sawyer was part of the con- an attempt to get Kate's and Sawyer's attention, with the whole "they're going to kill your boyfriend" line. Isn't it right after that that Juliette drags Kate to see Jack?
Also, I saw a transcript somewhere of the dialog between Pickett and Juliette, it's right before Juliette tells Kate to come with her to see Jack- we see Pickett and Juliett talking, but their speech is mumbled. I'm paraphrasing, but it's Juliette telling Pickett that the timeframe has been bumped up. Pickett questions Ben's decision to bump up the timeframe from two weeks, and Juliette tells Pickett that it's Ben's decision and it's final.
I have very mixed feelings about this epi. I really think I need to quit looking at spoilers and preview clips because it's ruining the suspense for me. I think my expectations have gotten too high. But then the ABC promo guys don't help... 'the next 2 episodes will change EVERYTHING!'... Uhm, No, they didn't!!!
That said, I have to admit that even though I did enjoy some aspects of the episode -- Nathan 'Firefly' Fillion as Keven was the highlight for me, and Jack was great -- I came away at the end feeling like I'd been jerked around.
The end of the S2 finale left Kate, Jack & Sawyer in danger with the Others, their fate in doubt. And here we are 6 epis later in nearly the same scenario!
And I really really hate The Others. Not the love-to-hate-them kind of thing -- I just want them all off the show! I was hoping they'd give us at least some small bit of info about why they claim to be 'the good guys', but no such luck.
And I'm really not liking Kate anymore, after what she did to Kevin, who she supposedly loved. Jack and Sawyer ought to watch their backs. And it's probably best that she choose Sawyer because Jack's better off without her. (And this is a Sawyer fan saying that!)
I'll still be there in February waiting for it to come back, but not with as much anticipation as before.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
Justin and I are about to record the podcast, and you've all given us some extra points to talk about...
You guys are awesome!
Stay tuned...
I am very disappointed with TPTB. They made a big deal of the 6 episode arc. How we will change our opinion of the others (maybe they are good guys is what i think they said). They have got to be kidding.
All i am left with now is the fact that the others are not good. they have a psycho named Pickett and we still no nothing about the Others lives.
also TPTB really have not answered most of the shows questions but they keep throwing in more unanswered questions.
Good job on the changes to the site. When I came here tonight, I thought I had selected the wrong bookmark :>)
Looking forward to the new podcast.
Hi guys,love the show.I agree with alot of the people here..it's like TPTB had an idea of where they were ging in S1 and now they've gone totaly of track..like they never really fleshed out the ideas they hinted at.It's REALLY disapointing I mean I'm a lost fanatic and i'm starting not to CARE thats how dULL this 6 episode arc is HECK if it wasn't for the sawyer sex it wouldn't have been worth it at all,LOL...Oh you guys talked about claire and the C-section...I think cutting a woman open and taking a baby out isn't the "hard" part,it's sewing her up and keeping her alive after that's hard.It could be they we're planning on getting the baby by any means necessary an screw Claire...anyway thanx for another great show
I liked everything that was going between Jack, Kate and Sawyer and the others. I didn't dig the flashbacks. WIth the exception of "The Glass Ballerina," I don't feel like any of the flashbacks have revealed very much about anything. We still don't know why Locke got in a wheelchair, how Desmond got in jail or how Eko got to Australia (which it seems we'll never know).
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