Wednesday, November 08, 2006

Your Thoughts on: "I Do"

Well, the fall finale has aired. What did you guys think?


Blogger Claude said...

My thoughts on "I Do" :


11/08/2006 11:28:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

I liked it a lot... I was hoping for a total mind-blow, but I think that was aiming too high... If this was just another episode, it would have been great - but tagging it with "Fall Season Finale" built it up too much...

That said, I really like where this is going... We went from Pissed-Off Jack to Fucking Nuts Jack in about five minutes... just tremendous... Jack's plan with Kate is genious - if she calls back in an hour and tells him some made-up story about his dog running away, then he'll know that the Others didn't let her go free... they can't force her to tell a story that they don't know...

The Eko funeral scene felt like it was way out of place... Locke got an entire line in the episode synopsis, but all they showed was him reading something that we already saw him read a few episodes ago... kinda dumb

2 lines that made me scratch my head:
- Kate telling Jack "I'm not leaving without you" right after getting it on with Sawyer
- Pickett saying that Jack "Wasn't even on Jacob's list"... that one is like 6 kinds of crazy

C&J, you guys have a lot of material here... and only 13 weeks to get it straightened out.

11/09/2006 02:02:00 AM  
Blogger Curt said...

This epi sucked. It was all just a set up for Febuary and lacked any real teeth of it's own. All of the 'good' scenes we're leaked or in promo's except Jacks little power play which would seem unfortunate.

Ok, so the one big reveal which isn't much of a reveal at all is 'Jacob' whoever the hell he is. While the list may well explain some of the questions around why the survivors simply weren't approached and rendered aid. Perhaps only those 'abducted' were the 'choosen' ones and evceryone else was throw away until they needed Jack. So they grab four people, one to send back with a message.Kate because she can be bought the easiest and will help control Sawyer. Both of whom can be used to manipulate Jack but leveraging the whole love triangle thing.

So Locke will quickly figure out to clinb a mountain and look north where he'll see the island.

No Eye Patch Dude at all!!

There is no way in hell you can do six hour show on this epi as there just isn't any material. And if you spend so much as five minute Jate v Skate I will turn it off immediately.

11/09/2006 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Bob M said...

This episode is more worthy of "The Lost Letdown". On the bright side, the break will give you guys a chance to catch your breath.

I'm looking forward to your season 2 retro during the break.

11/09/2006 09:31:00 AM  
Blogger Jen said...

If they really killed Karl, I think this raises significant questions about their moral code, especially given the emphasis est. by Goodwin and Ben (back when he was Henry) on good vs. bad people.

11/09/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...


Pickett's woeful inability to realize that Sawyer isn't responsible for Colleen's death, coupled with the fact that none of the other Others seem to care that Pickett wants to and was about to kill Sawyer, AND their harsh treatment of, well, everyone that's not them garners them a "bad people" note in my book.

It's one thing to consider yourself "good" if you have this grand plan and ideology, but these guys are just psychopaths.

This episode sucked, as you'll hear me say very soon...

11/09/2006 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Curt, you crack me up. I totally agree with you.

If Justin and I get 2 hours out of this ep I will be surprised. The worst part is that I already prepared my intravenous feeding tube so I wouldn't have to pause during what I hoped would be a 12hr podcast. Oh well...

I think you might be right about Locke finding the island north. Yuck.

The best part of the ep was the line about Jacob. Which, in a way, sucks. Because that one word raised more questions than anything else in the ep.

I agree, the funeral seemed strange. I can't believe Paulo and Nikki, and Desmond too, waited for an hour for Locke and Sayid to come back. With nothing to do but stand there and stare at Eko's grave. Not quite believable.

Bob M,
"The Lost Letdown"
You made my day with that one...

And may I ask what was up with Asskicking Alex? That was out of nowhere.

11/09/2006 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger Curt said...

Neener Neener, Bonnie likes me more than you!

11/09/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous 420brownie said...

Claude, you made me spit my Dr. Pepper through my nose this morning when I read your opening post- "Don't"...exactly.

I don't know, there were parts I really enjoyed, the last 10-15 minutes kept me on the edge of my seat. But Kate's blahhh predictable backstory and the "drama" leading up to the last 10 minutes were BORING. I do think that our expectations were probably too high for what is really nothing more than episode 6 of 22. But D and L and ABC set themselves up for this...wish they had delivered.

Yeah, OK, Jacob, I didn't even catch the line or knew of Jacob until I saw joe's post first thing this morning. It implies someone else was "managing" the list. I hope this is leading to something bigger than Jack operating on Ben, but I can't believe they buried the "revelation" in such a small line.

I've really, really enjoyed the first 6 episodes. I think 1, 4 and 5 were the best and now that we've seen 3 and 6, 2 is looking pretty good! But I'm disappointed that we've learned relatively little about the others. We've basically co-inhabited their camp for 6 episodes now, and still don't know a whole lot more about them than at the end of season 2.

I had high hopes for Locke's side-story this week, what total crap that was. I figured we were going to see he and Sayid stumble on some new piece of mythology, but no, they were just taking a cruise to pick up the jesus stick. And the big reveal being something that we've already seen????? My mouth dropped on that one.

Claude and Justin, I'd really like to get your thoughts on where you think the show is heading. I'm getting the feeling that this latest "others" arc is nothing more than an extended "fire and water" episode. Have an encounter with the others, learn little of nothing, then escape. So, assuming Jack, Kate and Sawyer escape, where's the story headed? I guess a lot depends on whether Ben survives or is killed, hell nevermind, it depends on a lot, but I'd still like to get your thoughts.

OK, this got really long, I'm sure I'll have more stuff later. Just finished your last podcast, and yeah, I can't imagine you'll have more than a couple of hours of material with this last episode, and that's stretching it. Later.

11/09/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this ep was supposed to change everything!? damn promo-dingbats! the cliffhanger was not fantastic. where will they escape? we all know that they won't kill off Sawyer.. no real suprise here..

I had hoped that the 6 episodes would build up to something huge. ep 4 and 5 was great, but they let us down on this one.

13 weeks! I'm sure they will start off very slow again. grieve ye not biatch.

11/09/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Luber said...

this ep was supposed to change everything!? damn promo-dingbats! the cliffhanger was not fantastic. where will they escape? we all know that they won't kill off Sawyer.. no real suprise here..

I had hoped that the 6 episodes would build up to something huge. ep 4 and 5 was great, but they let us down on this one.

13 weeks! I'm sure they will start off very slow again. grieve ye not biatch.

11/09/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger Curt said...

and what the hell is the deal with trying to lure us into daybreak with viral marketing? I'm not playing the teaser game for 13 weeks, you can bet on that.

11/09/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i usually get excited about mythology stuff, but i really enjoyed this first pod (discounting most of the Locke/polar bear episode and the way they handled the Eko stuff). i really enjoyed all of the others' camp stuff. It felt like it could go any direction throughout all 6 episodes, like Jack, Kate or Sawyer weren't beyond getting killed off at any moment. they kept the drama running high.

i understand if it's hard to squeeze much of a podcast out of the episode though. It was light on info/reveals.

DJ Mr. Monkey MD

11/09/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger Vargas said...

>>Pickett's woeful inability to realize that Sawyer isn't responsible for Colleen's death, coupled with the fact that none of the other Others seem to care that Pickett wants to and was about to kill Sawyer, AND their harsh treatment of, well, everyone that's not them garners them a "bad people" note in my book.<<

Thank you. I wish more people would call a spade a spade.

I didn't like this episode as much as I liked the last one and all the Sawyer and Kate sex was quite unnecessary and over done. I love Jack. Dude's got balls of solid rock. I just think his plan is going to fail.

What interests me though is what might have transpired between Jack and Ben in conversation the night before the surgery. I wonder if he suspects Juliette's plan? Something about his demeanor and expression right before he went under told me that he might know. Jack said that Ben had to get him the hell off of the island. Is Jack's plan something that both he and Ben hatched out the night before. Sounds weird but that thought did occur to me.

11/09/2006 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What? This was great!! I loved it! Yes, Nathan Fillion had a lame part and Kate's flashback was largely static. But Jack's unexpected bid for control was super and Juliette had ample opportunity to quarter-pucker her lips, what more could ja want?

11/10/2006 10:15:00 AM  
Blogger Joe said...

I was talking to some of my casual-Lost-fan friends yesterday, and their raction to this episode was very positive... I think that the spoiler scenes on took away from watching the episode develop as it was supposed to... so I'm gonna try to go spoiler-free for the rest of the season (although I don't like my chances of succeeding)...

It is entirely possible that when this show has completely run its course, we will look back at the Jack/Ben interactions as the single-best thing that this show has given us (at least until the zombie season is in full swing)...

Looking at where we are after six episodes, I'm fairly impressed by this season so far... If season 1 was "the island" and season 2 was "the hatch/button" then this season is "the others", so we are much further along in the development of this season's focus than we were in either of the first two... Yeah, there are still a ton of unanswered questions, but I think I like having island mysteries more than I like solving island mysteries...

And yeah, I'm probably gonna go ahead and watch "Daybreak"... My DVR is free at that time slot and it's only a 13-week commitment, and pretty much everything is in re-runs through New Year's anyway, so what the hell...

11/10/2006 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous 420brownie said...

I wonder what Jack's reaction will be when Kate tells him that he they're gonna need a way back across to the island? Maybe they'll commandeer the Galaga- that would be cool.

I've been thinking more about Alex's interaction. Although I don't particularly like the way they presented it, I think there's something big going on with her. Ben asking about her- there's something to that. I almost wonder if she is in on the whole thing, maybe her "ambush" or rescue attempt of Kate and Sawyer was part of the con- an attempt to get Kate's and Sawyer's attention, with the whole "they're going to kill your boyfriend" line. Isn't it right after that that Juliette drags Kate to see Jack?

Also, I saw a transcript somewhere of the dialog between Pickett and Juliette, it's right before Juliette tells Kate to come with her to see Jack- we see Pickett and Juliett talking, but their speech is mumbled. I'm paraphrasing, but it's Juliette telling Pickett that the timeframe has been bumped up. Pickett questions Ben's decision to bump up the timeframe from two weeks, and Juliette tells Pickett that it's Ben's decision and it's final.

11/10/2006 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Laura said...

I have very mixed feelings about this epi. I really think I need to quit looking at spoilers and preview clips because it's ruining the suspense for me. I think my expectations have gotten too high. But then the ABC promo guys don't help... 'the next 2 episodes will change EVERYTHING!'... Uhm, No, they didn't!!!

That said, I have to admit that even though I did enjoy some aspects of the episode -- Nathan 'Firefly' Fillion as Keven was the highlight for me, and Jack was great -- I came away at the end feeling like I'd been jerked around.

The end of the S2 finale left Kate, Jack & Sawyer in danger with the Others, their fate in doubt. And here we are 6 epis later in nearly the same scenario!

And I really really hate The Others. Not the love-to-hate-them kind of thing -- I just want them all off the show! I was hoping they'd give us at least some small bit of info about why they claim to be 'the good guys', but no such luck.

And I'm really not liking Kate anymore, after what she did to Kevin, who she supposedly loved. Jack and Sawyer ought to watch their backs. And it's probably best that she choose Sawyer because Jack's better off without her. (And this is a Sawyer fan saying that!)

I'll still be there in February waiting for it to come back, but not with as much anticipation as before.

11/11/2006 09:42:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Thanks for all the feedback guys.
Justin and I are about to record the podcast, and you've all given us some extra points to talk about...

You guys are awesome!

Stay tuned...

11/11/2006 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am very disappointed with TPTB. They made a big deal of the 6 episode arc. How we will change our opinion of the others (maybe they are good guys is what i think they said). They have got to be kidding.
All i am left with now is the fact that the others are not good. they have a psycho named Pickett and we still no nothing about the Others lives.
also TPTB really have not answered most of the shows questions but they keep throwing in more unanswered questions.

11/13/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Bob M. said...

Good job on the changes to the site. When I came here tonight, I thought I had selected the wrong bookmark :>)

Looking forward to the new podcast.

11/13/2006 08:24:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

I second that, Bob... Sweet re-design...

You should put red circles with lines through them over the faces of the deceased

11/13/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Rebell said...

Hi guys,love the show.I agree with alot of the people's like TPTB had an idea of where they were ging in S1 and now they've gone totaly of they never really fleshed out the ideas they hinted at.It's REALLY disapointing I mean I'm a lost fanatic and i'm starting not to CARE thats how dULL this 6 episode arc is HECK if it wasn't for the sawyer sex it wouldn't have been worth it at all,LOL...Oh you guys talked about claire and the C-section...I think cutting a woman open and taking a baby out isn't the "hard" part,it's sewing her up and keeping her alive after that's hard.It could be they we're planning on getting the baby by any means necessary an screw Claire...anyway thanx for another great show

11/14/2006 05:50:00 AM  
Blogger Gildersleeve said...

I liked everything that was going between Jack, Kate and Sawyer and the others. I didn't dig the flashbacks. WIth the exception of "The Glass Ballerina," I don't feel like any of the flashbacks have revealed very much about anything. We still don't know why Locke got in a wheelchair, how Desmond got in jail or how Eko got to Australia (which it seems we'll never know).

11/15/2006 10:32:00 AM  

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