Podcast #20
posted by Claude at 2/18/2007 10:58:00 PM
Sunday, February 18, 2007
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17 Comments:
While the three minute mile would be a great time to beat it is the four minute mile the separates world class runnuers from joggers.
after watching this episode, i talked to my dad, who is a bartender, about it. he says that the whiskey is a real brand. it is really expensive, and he recognized it ever since charlie took it out. he said that it was cool how fate kinda allowed des to drink the whiskey, after he finally did a great deed.
You guys must of hated this episode with only 2.5 hrs of discussion even with a third voice!
The third voice didn't hate it!
No, we (Justin and I at least) didn't hate it, it is just so narrow in scope that there isn't really that much to say. Why don't you prove us wrong at the black rock?
I didn't hate the episode either. But most of the scenes were just of functional use...there wasn't much to nitpick, discuss, re-examine, make fun of, re-examine again and go on tangents not about...
Yeah, Claude, there's only so many times you can argue whether it was a flashback or time travel. :)
This is the first time I heard the three of you together, enjoyed it.
Ash
i have 2 ideas for the word for when the writers state the obvious
1) sobvious - S.O.B, and also stating + obvious
2) bottling - remember the bottle? the bottle on the raft? erc etc etc...
Are they deliberatly making Charlie as annoying as possible so he can be redeemed later on, and then we will actually care when he gets killed off?
I mean, his girl is drowning, is saved and given the kiss of life, and he's totally jealous because he didn't get to do it! Get a grip Charlie!!
You know... I looked forward to Claude and Justin's reaction to Charlie's death sentance from the time I saw this weeks episode, to the last few minutes of their podcast. Guys! Where was the cheering, the joy? Where was the enthusiasm I so was sure you would be exuding?
Other than that, best Lost Lowdown #20 ever!
MekareQ,
I think Justin and I are saving the real revelry for when Charlie actually dies. It's nice to know the universe wants him dead, but the writers have the final word, and they might find some way for Charlie to weasel out of death (which, if anyone could, it would be Charlie).
They are in purgatory snow globe!
Proof - Deamon and Carlton said they are not in purgatory and they are not in a snow globe.
They said everything on the island will have a scientific explanation
They now say that Desmond time travelled.
Daemon and Carlton now have the credibility of a world leader who invaded a country to find WMD.
Yes they said everything would have a scientific explanation, but they didn't say it would have to be proven science. Time travel is part of theoretical science which they've been indicating in the last two episodes at least, with Miss Hawking, and the guy reading A Brief History of Time. However, I think in this book Stephen Hawking tries to disprove time travel but I'm not sure about that as I haven't read it! This could be a clue that Desmond wasn't time travelling at all.
I think I read something like "real pseudoscience".
It makes me wonder what that excludes?
Great show as usual guys (and gal!). Just listened to the offical podcast, and I think I may be just as confused as ever. They said Desmond really did time travel, and that he really did have the experience of having already lived those two days in 1996, in 1996. If that makes sense.
But my immediate question is, doesn't that put Desmond in a loop that he'll continue to re-live, over and over? I guess there's no guarantee that when the key is turned, that he'll travel back to the exact same spot in time, so maybe I'm just thinking too hard about it.
Also, they didn't really address his ability to see the future, although I thought it was very interesting that Damon referred to these flashes as "future memories". Claude, wasn't that your term too?
Another thing, Damon mentioned that there is another picture of Desmond and Penny (the one from the hatch), and even mentions that we saw the other picture in Penny's apartment in the finale of season 2. He strongly hints that there is something important about that. So, does that mean he's gone back more than once, at least twice?
Oh, and one more thing, I am pretty much convinced now that the reason Penny starts looking for Desmond is because of the crazy events that happened when Desmond time travelled back to 1996. I bet we eventually see a flashback to Penny talking with Desmond's physicist friend about why and how Desmond had been acting so strangely, which ultimately leads to her search for him.
Oh, thought it was also funny how they pretty much dismissed tonight's promo about "three HUGE island mysteries..."; basically, it's just that- promo. Look for one mystery to be revealed- the source of Jack's tatoos, which I've never really been too concerned with, but to each his own.
Wow, I was right about Ben waking up during surgery and I was right about Desmond's "future memories." I wish Carlton and Damon would just hire me already! :)
Julia
There is a difference between the common use of a theory where you just propose an idea and scientific theory which can be tested (falsified).
The writers had at least three ways to unpaint themselves out of a corner.
Life flashing in front of Desmond's eyes in the cliche near death experience.
Hallucination from a concusion due to the implosion.
Or my prosposal, that the entire hallucination happened in real time as an alcoholic delusion while inebriated Desmond choked Charlie (the entire "flashback" happened when he bagan choking Charlie and ended when he stopped coking Charlie).
"There is a difference between the common use of a theory where you just propose an idea and scientific theory which can be tested (falsified)."
Well, you know scientific theory doesn't just pop out of nowhere does it. It all has to start somewhere. My dad is working on theories about the shape of the universe. Try disproving that one!!
Anyway, I'm just thinking that if people want proven science then why are they watching the show? There's no way 40 plus people would have survived the crash in the first place without something crazy going on. It's fiction so people shouldn't get annoyed when crazy stuff happens!
I like your ideas - all just as likely as what Carlton/Damon have come up with.
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