Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Podcast #62

Episode 5.13: "Some Like It Hoth"

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6 Comments:

Blogger stephen said...

Early! Thanks.

3:42 PM  
Blogger ash said...

We saw the mom on the island in the opening scene of the season and at the end of this episode as she's handing the phone to Chang.

4:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys,

I was thinking about your conversation about Ethan, Alex, and the timeline with the Purge. I believe that it's not necessary for the Purge to have happened before they kidnapped Alex or before Ethan joined the Others.

I think that there were two separate events that you guys may be conflating into one: The Incident and The Purge. The Incident must have happened before the Purge since Chang refers to it in the video. Perhaps the mass exodus of moms and children occurred in response to the Incident. This may help with the timeline in having some event occur before 1992.
BTW, there IS a show on TruTV (I think) called Psychic Detectives. However, I look forward to the BBC production of the Prognostication Police.

6:46 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

I don't think that the purge is the incident, the only way the incident is useful in dating the purge is that the purge was after the incident, as you said.

My problem is reconciling these things (there are probably more):

1. Horace in 2004 said he had been dead for 12 years.

2. Horace was killed in the purge.

3. Alex was 16 in 2004.

4. Ben took Alex and took care of her after that.

5. Ben was still working with Dharma as a janitor when the purge happened.

6. Kelvin was in the first gulf war and then was recruited by Dharma and placed in the Swan hatch.


Some of these may be wrong, or be retconned in an attempt to make the timeline work, but if they are all true, then the timeline doesn't work. My problem is figuring out which ones are wrong and in what way.

7:46 AM  
Blogger Savagist said...

Ben could have just left Alex with people in the Hostiles group while he was playing double agent. its not uncommon in small scale societies where an extended number of people help raise/look after a child - but thats beside the point.

better yet, why did Ben even kidnap Alex? what were the true motives? how did he come to the conclusion THAT FAST that Rousseau was "crazy"? he's sent there to kill her with no formal intelligence but then suddenly changes his mind and concludes that shes an "insane woman" and has to take her child?

that whole back story just kind of sucks. how good did they even investigate (obviously not good)? and why send Ben/Ethan when they have this whole militia of gun wielding male adults? who obviously have nothing better to do but sit around eating stew.

why werent they trying to assimilate Rousseau into their group? they gladly take Ben and Ethan - and theres probably other examples - but they shun Rousseau and want her executed? and why didnt Widmore just send someone else to kill her if that was so integral? whatever. i guess when you write stories backwards filling in gaps, its a lot harder to generate causality. genius.

3:41 AM  
Blogger ash said...

Savagist, I have to agree... I was expecting a lot more from the Rousseau backstory. We just saw what we already knew, with more than a few inconsistencies.

Here's a crazy theory.. could Illana's team be descendants of the original Egyptians who lived on the island? I don't see how else you're just supposed to know what lies in the shadow of the statue.

3:47 AM  

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