Podcast #53
posted by Justin at 2/04/2009 05:43:00 PM
Wednesday, February 04, 2009
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16 Comments:
What a great episode. How crazy is it that Danielle's team found Jin. I'm sure Danielle at some point saw Jin in the original Lostie story line, right? Why doesn't she say anything to him later? Also Jin on that flotsam looked a lot like Han Solo in Carbonite.
Jin + Danielle really made this episode.
i can always tell when there's going to be a big reveal at the end of an episode.... that is, when the episode would be completely boring without it. the writers definitely know how to keep us watching by throwing in at least some small scraps of mythology...
Wow! Jin was a big reveal!
I must say...Sawyer seeing Kate made me shed a tear...
I just rewatched it. This show is so corny. Whenever I rewatch episodes I always laugh a lot. Everybody is so serious!
The light coming out of the Swan Station ventilation shaft door was so ridiculous. It was like they put the sun behind a pinhole. The little window where the light came out was the size of a sheet of paper.
Can't wait for the podcast!
yay! it's up!
-paul in vegas
and a new mr. podcast!?!?!?!?!?!!!
-paul in vegas
I think Damon and Carlton mentioned in an interview that Ethan infact did tell the others about his encounter with John Locke and that combined with Richard's meeting with Locke in 1954 was one of the reasons why The Others were so excited to see him in 'The Brig' and why they were so eager to abandon Ben in The Man behind the curtain.
Rose and Bernard could not have moved the camp along with them because so far there is only one time jump for which they are unaccounted for (when Claire gives birth to the baby and Locke sees the light) and had they gone back to the beach and touched the camp the camp would have disappeared into the future which we know did not happen because the beach camp was always there after Claire gave birth to the baby. So the camp we saw in this episode was definitely in the future.
Rousseau has not talked about rescuing Jin because throughout the history of the show Jin and Rousseau have never shared a single scene together. They have had one maybe two scenes where Jin was in the background with other redshirts but it is easy to miss someone when they are in large group of people esp if you have been going crazy for 16 years. This is good, well thought out continuity. Jin will not be able to take away Alex because according to Ben that's not how that story went down and even we assume Ben is lying it is still not possible because if that happened Ben would have remembered it happening.
I was very offended by you guys calling Sun a "bad mother". It was incredibly sexist. I don't think anyone would have called Jack or any other man a "bad father" if they left their kid with their mother while they went on business trips abroad. Hate to break it to you but the world is not the boys club any longer. It is sad to see that even in this day and age people expect women to sit at home with their kid and if they try to pursue a career or do something with their life they are termed a "bad mother". You should be ashamed of yourself.
sun is a bad mother. i'm glad you guys said it.
-paul in vegas
No doubt we are all embedded in complex systems of oppression and hetero-normative values. However, I think Claude and Justin have routinely admired off-island Sun as an agentic character who is engaged in storylines that women rarely get in TV or movies. Growing up, I spent my days with my grandparents because both of my parents were working professionals; I am grateful for the perspective that this upbringing gave me. Moreover, in many nations, multi-generational child rearing is a common, celebrated practice. That said, father, mother, guardian, whatever, it is not in the best interests of a child to go halfway across the world to try to kill a really dangerous person. Sun is surely a badass for taking on Ben and Widmore in this way, but she is a single parent risking her life and freedom. If Desmond takes little Charlie back to the island, or if he leaves him off-island with Penny, knowing that he might not get back, this issue will re-arise.
~Jen
Furthermore, while there is assuredly a sexism in gendered expectations, there is an even more insidious sexism lying at the heart of your critique-- the fact that your dominant takeaway from their characterization of Sun is the assertion that she is a "bad mother" is based on your own overt or subconscious assumption that her identity is defined by her motherhood, as opposed to her myriad other roles.
As we all know, Sun is not a killer.
ehhhh...except for that one time...but Others hardly count
If Hurley or Charlie I were single dads and were jetsetting to assassinate people I think the illustrious Claude and Justin would call them the worst dads ever.
Indeed. The social dimensions of parenthood tend to be problematic from gendered (for men and women) and racial points of view. I think it is toxic to view these incidents in a vacuum, however. To say that C&J should be ashamed of themselves and to single out this comment as sexist shortchanges the realities of socialized oppression. I think we could raise up the level of discourse here before making serious but reductive accusations.
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