Friday, September 26, 2014

Podcast #136

Commentary for Episode 3.06 "I Do"

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Commentary for Episode 3.06 "I Do" (with episode audio)

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Blogger lostinclevelandgeek said...

hello Claude & Justin, thank you for the cornucopia of delightful podcasts. now the "Jacob Cabin" theory.acording to Zuleikha Robinson, Ilana was Jacob biological daughter(but changed later).I believe Jacob Cabin was a drop storyline, where Ilana was raised by Jacob in the cabin during the 70's. And somehow inspired Horace to build it, like the lighthouse.Ilana , when to the cabin first because she was raised there and knew it well, and because she knew it was her father home when she left the Island.

9/28/2014 11:31:00 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

whoa. Do you have a link for that perhaps? I've never heard that part about the cabin.

9/28/2014 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

That's an interesting idea.

Though why would Jacob have Horace build a cabin for him and Illana to live in? Seems like Jacob could have done that himself. But since we learn Horace built the cabin in season 4, perhaps they had to go with that once they decided (and dropped) the idea that Illana was his daughter.

But since the official story is that Illana is not Jacob's daughter, our grand cabin theory is just trying to solve what's in the actual show.

According to this an ABC rep confirmed she is not his daughter:

9/28/2014 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

In the end, they dropped the daughter storyline, presumably because they didn't have time to develop it properly, and didn't want to devote so much time to an ancillary character. However, as confirmed on Geronimo Jack's Beard, all the way up to the script for "Dr. Linus" (6.07), they had the line "Jacob was my father." At the last minute they did rewrites and filmed "Jacob was the closest thing I had to a father." I do think that's worth considering sine the final cabin scene is 5.17, and therefore they may have envisioned the Ilana daughter plot as a way to explain her cabin trip. I had not seriously considered this idea, so thanks for pointing that out, Season 6 really was a mess at times, i.e. all the time.

9/29/2014 09:51:00 AM  
Blogger ti-zud-yzae said...

i need some cake baiter, and a cheese grater.

10/01/2014 02:38:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

I'll throw out a theory I came up with while listening to the podcast.

What if it wasn't Jacob but Man in Black that made Horace build the cabin? Didn't Horace say he had a vision?

What if MIB did that so there would be a place for the Others to find him so he could exert his influence on them pretending to be Jacob? So right from the moment it was built, it was his outpost and MIB was in possession of it.

Since the Ilana storyline wasn't on the show, it could be explained that she went to the cabin just because that's where she had been told Jacob was. But once she got there, she picked up the clues and destroyed it so he couldn't play the same game.

10/09/2014 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Ash, great theory. That's exactly what we hypothesize in the podcast ;)

It took us a while to get there, per usual, but realizing the Illana didn't have objective knowledge that the cabin was where Jacob lived (especially since they dropped the storyline that she was his daughter) then the only people who know where Jacob really is (the statue) were MIB and Richard (Ricardus if you're nasty).

Thus, all of the Others, Illana included, only thought the cabin was a place to find Jacob, it's their mythology. And yes, since we learn that Horace built the cabin from Locke's dream, it's an easy leap to surmise Horace was given a dream to build the cabin by MIB.

That's basically our "Grand Cabin Theory": MIB made Horace build the cabin so he could impersonate Jacob to the Others. The Others were mistaken that Jacob ever lived there. And Illana's line "Jacob hasn't been here in a long time" while inaccurate (he was NEVER there) is as close to the truth as the writers can have her say since it's part of the Others mythology that Jacob was at some point there. (i.e. she can't easily prove he was never there, so she can't actually say that)

10/09/2014 12:49:00 PM  
Blogger ash said...

Ah, I thought you guys figured Jacob was in the cabin a long time ago but I'm glad we're on the same wavelength.

If you manage to get Damon and Carlton, I think you might just have to throw this theory out there and see what we get.

10/09/2014 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't wait for the next podcast!

2/24/2015 12:19:00 AM  

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