Sunday, May 23, 2010

Initial Reaction Podcast #83.1

Initial Reaction to "The End".

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15 Comments:

Blogger Claude said...

It's great to have reached this point with you all! Here's to an epic finale!

2:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you would have told me I was going to love that finale, I would have said you were absolutely crazy, but, I did. As I Tweeted, it feels finished and at The End, the only thing I could sit and think about was that I felt satisfied.
Can't wait to hear what the LLD community has to say - at least I haven't lost you guys yet!
Jeri

6:47 AM  
Anonymous 420brownie said...

Jeri, I completely agree. I have to say, I'm in a bit of a weird space this morning. I thought the finale was brilliant, and I can't seem to stop thinking about it, but at the same time I'm pretty sad that the show is over. I think it didn't really sink in until this morning.

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

420brownie described pretty much exactly what I'm feeling today.

David3

9:20 AM  
Anonymous chexmix14oz said...

A quote from a buddy of mine that pretty much sums it up for me: "The best kind of ending for LOST would have been one where I wasn't sure if I liked it or not. Or if I understood it or not. It was neither good nor bad - it transcended any label you could place on it, and for that, Lost was incredible."

- Jeremy from NC

11:23 AM  
Anonymous MekareQ said...

I've spent the entire day on the verge of crying. Wow, this show was so good... I'm glad Claude and Justin are doing the commentaries :D

Glad to have been a part of this trip with you guys!

MekareQ

8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rewatched the finale tonight..and this finale really did work for me ...better even a second time i thought because I could understand and appreciate it better...that scene with Ben and Locke outside at the end and Ben asking for forgiveness from Locke just killed me...thought it was well done and emotional...very satisfied with it all

8:31 PM  
Blogger Dawn Owar said...

I loved it!

and then I tweeted your initial reaction @TLLhighlights

Sorry I skipped the episode before. Never had time to listen and its all sort of irrelevant now.

3:14 PM  
Anonymous Frank said...

This finale, no, this season was bullshit! I liked it as far as viewing pleasure, but they give us so much content and leave a majority of it up in the open for what? So they can go to purgatory and move-on. But on the plus side, the pilot podcast you two did was fucking hilarious! I hope you do more! You guys are the proverbial Rolls-Royce of podcasting! Take care. -Frank from Australia

4:34 PM  
Blogger Savagist said...

if they would have told me in season 1 the show would conclude in a church and the main villain being about as Dangerous/Heinous as a criminal in your local State Pen (who was set up by bullshit conditions), i would have stopped watching 5 years ago.

seriously, where did most of this show go? MIB was a patsy for some weirdo Jacob freudian fake mom love shit.

what was Walt and Michael? all he wanted to do was hangout with his fucking son and he gets stuck in some bullshit cosmic island game by Jacob... where his KID IS KIDNAPPED by some weirdo motherfuckers that end up saying hes TOO DANGEROUS to be on the island so they let both go? then because of that, Michael has to go on a freighter because the Universe broke his gun and stopped his car from killing him... only to mop some floors and spray some shit on a MOUNTAIN OF c4.... then is stuck on the fucking island as a dumb ghost for eternity? WHAT - THE FUCK - IS THIS SHIT? hahahah

if you can pull any "logical" moral out of those events - feel free.

Lame Theist Church Afterlife + weak villain + insanely ambiguous dialog + insanely weird rules that turn on/off at convenient times = thanks for the "entertainment"

it was "fun", sure, but it was a total overhyped B-rate comic book at best put onto a TV screen.

4:00 AM  
Anonymous Bullock said...

i plan to pretend that the series ended with the incident...the good ole pre magic light thingy days...

best thing about lost has been your podcasts, will listen to them all again but highly unlikely to bother rewatching the show.

a grotesque disappointment when all said and done..

9:09 AM  
Blogger Claude said...

Frank, Savagist, Bullock, and others who didn't love the finale, I feel your pain. There is a lot to discuss on the finale podcast. Hopefully we can put some things in perspective. And for the things we can't, "deleted scene!"

12:44 PM  
Anonymous *m said...

Claude, Justin... I'm hoping that by the time you record your thorough podcast for "The End", you'll have changed your mind and love the finale.

It truly moved me and provided the closure I needed to the series. I watched it from the very beginning and kept watching despite actually hating so many episodes during seasons 2-4. I'm glad I stuck with it and not just out of habit.

I have some thoughts re: the finale that I'd like to share. Please pardon the rambling.

I'll miss you guys if you completely stop podcasting. Hopefully you'll still do the rewatch?

Love you guys!
*m

1:57 PM  
Anonymous *m said...

My thoughts re: the finale continued...

*The Island was real. The Losties crashed there and survived there on that creepy island for the duration of what we saw take place there. It happened. No we're not going to get the answers to so many of the elements that added to their island experiences, but like real life, you don't get all the answers. I thought I'd care more about not getting the answers, but I don't.

*What we formerly chalked up as an appendix scar on Jack in the Flash sideways, was really the echo, if you will of the stab wound Smoky gave him, that caused his death. Just as you had people that didn't exist in the REAL/Island timeline (see David, Nadia's children) the wound wasn't real, but another way to help the Losties work through their baggage so that they could move on. They had to accept what happened, instead of dwelling on it, and then move on.

*David was Jack. "David" was his way of accepting his crappy father, of loving himself as an emotional and frustrating grumpy boy and in turn be a better father to himself than he had. The connection to Juliet seemed to be because of the guilt he had for killing Juliet with Jughead and also because they seemed so similar and likely to be romantically involved at some point.

*Nadia was married to Sayid's brother and was mother to imaginary children because Sayid could never have her. He didn't feel he deserved her because of all of the atrocities he had committed and consequently felt like an evil unloveable monster. His relationship with Shannon on island was so devoid of off island influences and purely loving so it makes sense that they'd connect again in the FS world they created. It was probably the healthiest relationship they'd each ever had.

*Claire gave birth to Aaron in the FS because of the connection she lost to her son in the real world. It messed her up to lose and live without him those three years on the island. Especially right after Charlie died and also without the friends who abandoned her.

*Jacob and MIB wouldn't be in the Flash Sideways because it was constructed by the Losties for the Losties. They didn't ultimately care about Jacob and MIB's "stuff". They only cared about their experiences with each other on the island and their baggage before the island.

*I think that Michael's presence on the island is self-imposed, like all of the ghosts there. They're not ready to move on from their suffering on the island just as Ben isn't ready to move on from the "waiting room" before the light with everyone in the church. Hopefully Michael will forgive himself and let himself leave and go to the friggen light!

*The Flash Sideways was constructed by our Losties so that they could be together and move on together. Like Christian said, it happens "outside" of time so it's not weird that some people died in 2004 and others much later, like Hurley and Ben, and they can all be there at the same moment/place. I think the FS is a shared psychological spiritual experience after the Losties deaths, but before their transfer "to" the light, which is the real hereafter/heaven/one with the universe energy absorbtion, etc. For us, it's merely a plot device in season six. For them it's where they go after they die. I like that it tells us that the Losties meant so much to each other and will be together likely forever. It doesn't negate their individual experiences on the island, before the island or after the island. It's just a conclusion to the stories of these survivors of a plane crash that we've chosen to watch. No we don't get the "after the ajira six land" story or the Hurley and Ben rule the island story, but I don't really care. That's not the show or story we've been watching for six seasons. Our Losties are done.

1:58 PM  
Blogger stephen said...

4-hour intro. love you guys.

3:31 PM  

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